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Thread: Dean Pees -- Props or Blame?
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11-05-2012, 01:12 PM #13
Re: Props to Dean Pees
Pees and the D, need that Charm City Swagger back.. Not going to be fired now, but Pees is not a Ravens D type of coach. Swagger is missing, as someone said, it Feels like Mattison again!!
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11-05-2012, 01:21 PM #14
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
exactly, how did we find those adalius's, those bart scott's, those Hartwell's, those Jj's, Mcrary's how did we ever find those guys? They all weren't number 1 picks hell some weren't even drafted, we had coaches back then who understood the personnel they had, they understood what worked, what schemes they could use to maximize that personnel group. Those guys probably wouldn't have made it if they were never given a shot, but the coaches (rex, nolan, del rio, marvin) put then in a situation to succeed. Why do we have 6'2 press cover corners playing 10yrds off the ball? Why are we sending middle backer blitz when we cant even get push from our Dline straight up? Or a middle backer blitz coming off the edge when that's slow blitz? Where are the stunts? Where is the presnap movements? Where is the shuffling aling the line putting guys in a place to take advantage of the other teams weakness? The floods, the overload blitzes? Where is all that shit?
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11-05-2012, 01:44 PM #15Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
very vanilla. I give them props for holding Believeland to field goals but it seems like they're going to have to go back to a little organized chaos
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11-05-2012, 02:06 PM #17
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11-05-2012, 02:07 PM #18Veteran Poster
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
Blame.
Have not been impressed with Pees at all. I realize there was a loss of talent but it is no excuse to go from top 5 to bottom 5. Ravens are behind teams like Indy, KC and even Cleveland. Do they have better talent than the Ravens? I think not. I would be commending Pees if he had this unit in the top 10. I would be understanding if he had this unit in the top 15. But to be at the bottom is on the coach. This team is poorly coached on both sides of the ball and nothing illustrates that more than the fact that they are one of the most penalized teams.
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11-05-2012, 02:14 PM #19
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
Shouldn't be a slight to Pees to note that he's bringing to the Ravens exactly what his track record and NE style defense advertised prior to his hire. The real questrion is why the Ravens would want his style of D coaching. He's just being the same Pees we knew he was and somehow to expect somethng else is confusing.
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11-05-2012, 02:17 PM #20
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11-05-2012, 02:24 PM #21Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
I feel like Harbs and his whole staff are Bo Schembechler disciples. Solid fundamentally-sound football, but nothing too creative. Its a proven winning formula but a little too vanilla to win the big game (as a Raven fan, hopefully I'm wrong)
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
Actually past 2 games defense has looked better. He hasnt had a full compliment of players either. Ngata hurt, Mcphee hurt, Suggs hurt, Upshaw hurt and Kemo terrible and Cody not so great. Looks like the Defense is slowly getting better, IMO. Most of that ranking is from a few early games. I dont think they miss Ray as much as people think.
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
I didn't want him before his hire, and still don't like it. Blame, period. Wow our D didn't give up a TD! So freaking what? It was against one of the worst teams in the league at redzone scoring.
We've gotten abused and ransaked on our D coaches over the years and now it's finally biting us. the unfortunate thing, I bet he gets a pass for next year if they give Cam the boot. Teams NEVER do a complete overhaul unless it's from the HC down. So unfortunatly, unless he gets a HC job offer(will never happen) we're stuck with him next year. Better go get some better players.
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