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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    I don't see that it does in this case. It's saying, this body, that I am highly critical of hasn't even approved it yet. Why not?

    Somed say that it's so if you suffer injury, you can't sue as these are not approved but authorized for emergency use. Seeing that the vaccine has already accounted for 25% of Pfizers revenue this year, maybe they're on to something.
    Pretty sure vaccine manufacturers just can't be sued in general. That's why the vaccine damage fund exists.

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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    I saw 25% of Pfizer's first quarter revenue came from the vaccine. That's a lot of motivation for people to get vaccinated...

    Also, everyone I know who got it has had side effects. Some randomly for a few weeks after the first dose and have decided against the second because of it.
    Like bad side effects? Seems like pretty much every vaccine has side effects... I mean the point is to trigger an immune response. Seems like it would be like quitting working out because you were sore the next day.

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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    And the vaccine?

    My wife predicted that somewhere down the road the lawyers will have the commercials on looking for those the vaccine harmed, or has something they can at least blame on the vaccine.
    Admittedly, the fact we don't have long term studies on the vaccine is a concern. That was why I was happy not to be getting it when it first came out. More time for sure effects to make themselves apparent.

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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by BustOfPallas View Post
    In case anyone wondered where most of the lack of rationality in regards to Covid is coming from.

    The Atlantic just called out half of it's readers and their panic porn/pro-lockdown ways.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ckdown/618780/

    This is the lefts form of science denial. Being pro-lockdown is the new political correctness for them.
    That was a great article. To paraphrase one person, I spent the last 4 years fighting trump because he was so science, and now I've spent the part three months fighting the people I thought were on my side.

    Plus, who doesn't like reading about wanting schools open coming from a place of white supremacy?

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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    He’s not the one approving it. How is he supposed to answer what is missing for the FDA to approve it?
    Maybe he doesn’t want to take it unless he can sue someone if bad shit happens. Cant do that without FDA approval, which some of us find convenient.


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    Can't do it with fda approval either in the case of vaccines...

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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    They don't provide immunity

    Those are a few of my concerns.
    So I imagine you don't get any other vaccines either since none of them are 100% effective?

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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    That seals it for me. I am not going anywhere near that bullshit.
    Fwiw, this is apparently common in testing if vaccines. Not saying this to condone it or anything, just to point out it isn't restricted to covid.
    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Reads like Shakespeare to me. I’m more of an NIV or ESV guy
    Yeah. It was eye opening seeing a translation in words I could easily understand. The fact my wife got me a study Bible edition of the kjv is the only reason I got through it.

    On a funny side note, one time when I was walking through DC when I was on a contract there, a homeless guy saw it in my bag and asked if I was studying to be a priest or something.

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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ortizer View Post
    So I imagine you don't get any other vaccines either since none of them are 100% effective?

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    Are you equating the polio virus or rubella with the flu or COVID? Everything is a risk vs reward decision and it should be personal. The risk of dying or being disabled from the flu or COVID is extremely low, especially if you are otherwise healthy. Polio? That's a different story.

    Get a vaccine or don't. I could care less what other people decide to do. The fear porn and "vaccine truthers" looking to shame and cancel people can go to hell though. mRNA is not proven science. This vaccine is not like other vaccines. It's not the same science or technology. Shoot, even the J&J vaccine, which I regrettably took, is causing side effects they didn't expect and that was made using proven science and technology.

    If people do their own research and feel comfortable believing Fauci and big pharma, more power to you. If people are skeptical and don't want to take it, that is their right and they have legitimate reasons to be skeptical.

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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ortizer View Post
    Pretty sure vaccine manufacturers just can't be sued in general. That's why the vaccine damage fund exists.

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    To my knowledge and I’m probably going to do a terrible job of explaining it… they were basically given immunity from it in the 80s as an incentive to take risk without fear of being sued. In place there is a fund (for lack of a better description) set up by the government (again maybe not the best description) that you can get compensation from if you’re injured by a vaccine.





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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ortizer View Post
    So I imagine you don't get any other vaccines either since none of them are 100% effective?

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    Never been big on vaccines ir any pharmaceuticals in general, prefer natural as much as possible.





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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Description of how potential fertility issues from vaccines could happen…


    COVID vaccines ‘must be halted immediately,’ renowned toxicologist tells CDC

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/co...m_source=gabcn





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    Re: New Jersey program offers free beer to those who get Covid-19 vaccine.

    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERBLOOD View Post
    Shoot, even the J&J vaccine, which I regrettably took, is causing side effects they didn't expect and that was made using proven science and technology.

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    See my link above about why the J&J shot is causing issues. COVID is not be maybe more of a blood disease than a respiratory virus but I’d say maybe a bit of both.





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