What is the main thing you so wrong in today's society and culture?

[wickedsolo]

Anything can be abused. That doesn't mean you judge something by it's abuses.

Does that include national socialism? ;)


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[NCRAVEN]

Does that include national socialism? ;)


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Well some things just suck cause they suck.

[Everything_Ravens]

Patriotism is just a different name for Nationalism.

Yeah I started to go with "nationalism"

Anything can be abused. That doesn't mean you judge something by it's abuses.

In most cases I would agree with you but I don't think you fully smell me bro. What I'm saying is that patriotism and religion in their most untainted practices are a detriment to society.

[wickedsolo]

Well some things just suck cause they suck.

I mean, was National Socialism (Naziism) really anything noteworthy until Hitler? They weren't the first National Socialist country.


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[OhThePossibilities]

The real problem with today's society is that it apparently hates mother!, which is my favorite movie of the year.

[NCRAVEN]

In most cases I would agree with you but I don't think you fully smell me bro. What I'm saying is that patriotism and religion in their most untainted practices are a detriment to society.

You are correct, I'm not following. How do you mean?

[NCRAVEN]

I mean, was National Socialism (Naziism) really anything noteworthy until Hitler? They weren't the first National Socialist country.


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Not really sure. But I guess that would go to the point I was making. Not to judge something because of its abuses it (or mostly because of it)

[Everything_Ravens]

You are correct, I'm not following. How do you mean?

They are both sociopolitical devices that not only have been used to advance agenda but they exist to do so.

In terms of religion, the real power is in spirituality. Prayer, meditation, manifesting reality by way of faith in the unseen, karma, reaping what you sow and so on and so forth. Those things are real universal principles but when you hijack them by
attaching stories to them, sprinkle in some political angles and people start subscribing to it, we become lost as a race of human beings.

[NCRAVEN]

They are both sociopolitical devices that not only have been used to advance agenda but they exist to do so.

In terms of religion, the real power is in spirituality. Prayer, meditation, manifesting reality by way of faith in the unseen, karma, reaping what you sow and so on and so forth. Those things are real universal principles but when you hijack them by
attaching stories to them, sprinkle in some political angles and people start subscribing to it, we become lost as a race of human beings.

Can you give me an example so I can understand what you mean?

[Everything_Ravens]

Can you give me an example so I can understand what you mean?

Sure! But why don't you ask me more specifically what kind of example you are looking for. I feel like I gave you examples.

[NCRAVEN]

Sure! But why don't you ask me more specifically what kind of example you are looking for. I feel like I gave you examples.

I guess I'm just looking for you to be specific, I feel like your post have been very general.

Could just be my thick skull but I'm not picking up what you're putting down.

[Everything_Ravens]

I guess I'm just looking for you to be specific, I feel like your post have been very general.

Could just be my thick skull but I'm not picking up what you're putting down.

I'm not going to go in depth about religion because regardless of my personal perspectives, I realize that it works for some people, and I would never do that in a public forum.

You being someone who has been very keen on the concept of how labels create lines of division should be able to appreciate how identifying yourself as an______ (insert country where you have citizenship), instead of just identifying with being a person on this planet creates it's issues.