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Thread: Who are the fascists?
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01-13-2021, 09:19 AM #25Veteran Poster
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Re: Who are the fascists?
The gov could easily go after the Amazon, Facebook, google and Twitter for collusion. The past 10 days (probably the past 4 years, but now just out in the open) they are all acting as a group. When the first makes a move, the rest all follow.
If there were a fair government, they could go after them for election fraud. Their actions could be categorized as campaign contributions. Giving one party free publicity, while silencing the opposition.
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01-13-2021, 09:33 AM #26Regular 1st Stringer
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01-13-2021, 09:45 AM #27Hall Of Fame Poster
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01-14-2021, 01:41 PM #29
Re: Who are the fascists?
I think the term "fascist" itself isn't well understood.
Fascism isn't necessarily a bad form of government, in fact if it was done right, I see it as a far superior form of government to the one we currently have. It's not like communism where people joke about "if only it was done correctly, it could work", fascism really could work. Fascism is more socialistic in the sense that all citizens are prevented from getting too rich or too poor, which would appeal to many progressives of today. People would be on an A-Z level of income where nobody goes above A and nobody falls below Z. Industries are regulated by the government to ensure they serve the good of the people (theoretically), which would destroy large multinational corporations from exploiting resources, ruining the local environment, etc. However, free markets would otherwise be tolerated, class differences would be tolerated, it would just be managed with the common good in mind and regulated. Sure there are flaws in this system too, but it's ironically a better alternative for progressives than finance capitalism where all decisions are made only to appease shareholders, to the detriment of customers, locals in the community, etc.
The big issue with fascism working in the U.S. is that there is no common culture across people of different ethnicities, religions, ideologies etc. to unify behind. No incentive to serve the greater community because there's no sense of community. Maybe "Ravens fans" could be the thing that unites people across these boundaries.
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01-14-2021, 01:52 PM #31
Re: Who are the fascists?
Sorry for that tangent, but it does seem the left is the more authoritarian side of the political spectrum. I think that's a better term to describe it.
The only thing where the right comes off authoritarian is with their position on abortion and gay marriage, where the left takes the individual liberty stance. Otherwise, the left wants to control what fuel you use, what speakers are allowed to visit college campuses, what people get access to the vast infrastructure of Twitter, Google, YouTube, Facebook, what guns you're allowed to own, what you choose to wear on your face or not, what pronouns you're supposed to say, etc. They also have the institutional power to enforce it, while the right doesn't, which makes them more dangerous. And worst of all, they're convinced they're doing the right thing, so they are largely incapable of being convinced their tyranny is a bad thing.
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01-14-2021, 01:54 PM #32
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01-14-2021, 02:10 PM #34
Re: Who are the fascists?
In a healthy fascist country, there wouldn't be much opposition to silence, it works best among a community of like-minded people. Example, let's say you're against drag queen story hour coming to your kid's elementary school. Let's say 9 in 10 people agree, 1 in 10 opposes. That 1 in ten would be marginalized, so they flee to California where drag queens are worshipped like deities. Everyone wins. You get the drag queens out, they get to go down on them if they're so inclined, everyone gets what they want.
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Re: Who are the fascists?
Fascism, Socialism, and Communism are all political ideology that is predicated on citizens working towards a "common" objective, good, goal...whatever. Your point that we don't have a "common" culture in the US is spot on. The US was built on individuality and self-reliance. Everyone is their own king and everyone's property their own kingdom.
Thus, those political and social ideologies that are built around the idea of everyone working for eachother and working towards a common objective is in diametric opposition to that of the "American" way of life - especially now.
When religion started to be replaced by political and entertainment idolatry, we lost a lot of values and morals that made us more similar than different.
If we want to get back to a place where we all can share similar core values, we have to collectively stop idolizing people like Trump, Obama, Pelosi, McConnell, Brad Pitt, Beyonce, Lebron James, etc.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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