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01-23-2013, 07:16 PM #25Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Premature Discussion of Flacco's Mounting Hall of Fame Credentials
Man, you need to stop posting information showing what other QBs did compared to Flacco. The naysayer will get upset and still not believe you.
Flacco is a quiet QB who does things every year that impresses no one because fans want higher playing stats every time. The cumulation of his first 5 years makes some of the great QBs accomplishments look bad. Give Flacco more years with T Smith,Boldin,J Jones,Pitta, and Caldwell as OC, watch what happens. Receivers who can run and catcghhold on to the damn ball),Joes first 5 years, who did he have to throw to. Derek mason(dropped the winning pass against the steelers), Clayton(dropped more passes then he should have), Evans(sorry to bring it up) and that damn cam cameron(OC coach who couldn't figure out a way for receivers to get separation). Flacco will get better with time and if tthe current receivers stay on. Thats what helped every great QB, a set of receivers to grow with.
I'm with Flacco doing what he has done already. He plays to his abilities and goes about it in a business way. A team needs a QB who stays calm and has a cannon for an arm. Do hope he cuts loose after this season, after this postseason play, he deserves to. Be cool for him to wear an Art Modell T-shirt and hold his newborn up on the podium with his wife. Doubt he does it, he too business like.Hell. I hope all the Ravens wear an Art Modell shirt after the game, Win or lose. Art deserves his props for believing Baltimore was his future and he was right.
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01-23-2013, 07:25 PM #26
Re: Premature Discussion of Flacco's Mounting Hall of Fame Credentials
I think he is going in the right direction. If he wins 2 SBs with his arm and finished his career at the all time top in wins and playoff wins, it will be hard to keep him out.
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01-23-2013, 07:27 PM #27
Re: Premature Discussion of Flacco's Mounting Hall of Fame Credentials
After 5 years of early exits, the journey is finally complete.
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Re: Premature Discussion of Flacco's Mounting Hall of Fame Credentials
I understand your point and think you make some good points, but let me say that I don't think any team would ever want their QB to be in that 5000 yard club. That typically signals that your team is either involved in a bunch of shootouts (and that your defense is not championship quality) or playing from behind quite a bit.
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01-23-2013, 11:26 PM #29
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01-23-2013, 11:43 PM #30Legendary RSR Poster
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01-24-2013, 11:00 AM #31
Re: Premature Discussion of Flacco's Mounting Hall of Fame Credentials
Going purely on regular season stats, Joe's first 5 years as a starter track a Ken O'Brien, a Trent Green, a Dave Krieg or a Jim Everett - certainly solid starters, but not HOF guys. What may distinguish him from that group is that he seems to be ascending, and, at age 28 with a very durable frame, will have 10 more years to write his history, long after Brady, Manning and Big Ben are all gone.
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01-24-2013, 11:25 AM #32Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Premature Discussion of Flacco's Mounting Hall of Fame Credentials
Joe is quietly racking up NFL records. He has time on his side. I'll wait and see, not one to announce boldly that he isn't a HOF player.
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01-24-2013, 11:35 AM #33
Re: Premature Discussion of Flacco's Mounting Hall of Fame Credentials
His five-year regular season stats align favorably with Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning.
Brady: 1243/2018, 13925 Yards, 97 TD, 52 INT --> 87.5 QB Rating
Favre: 1342/2149, 14825 Yards, 108 TD, 66 INT --> 86.8 QB Rating
Flacco: 1507/2489, 17633 Yards, 102 TD, 56 INT --> 86.3 QB Rating
Peyton: 1749/2817, 20618 Yards, 138 TD, 100 INT --> 85.9 QB Rating
Brees: 1125/1809, 12348 Yards, 80 TD, 53 INT --> 84.9 QB Rating
Flacco has more passing yards in his first five seasons than anybody except Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Matt Ryan, and Drew Bledsoe. He's got the 11th most touchdown passes. Nobody with more touchdown passes had thrown fewer INTs. Only one other quarterback who threw 100+ TDs had fewer than 60 INTs.
I'd say that his regular season stats actually compare very well historically. He may not have matched Peyton and Brady's and Brees' contemporary numbers, but that's because those guys aren't young QBs. Compare the first five years of Flacco's career to anybody else's and it is a very favorable comparison for Flacco, and demonstrates a very good start to a career.
That's the problem I have when people say Flacco doesn't have the regular season stats to show he is a worthy QB... they don't even consider looking at how the guys he is being compared to were playing in THEIR earlier seasons. The fact is, not many QBs have ever performed at a Flacco-like level at this point in their careers.
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01-24-2013, 04:14 PM #35
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01-24-2013, 04:16 PM #36Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Premature Discussion of Flacco's Mounting Hall of Fame Credentials
I think his trajectory under decent OCs will get joe into Canton easily.
Front office should realise after having Caldwell as OC what is possible long term. if/when Caldwell leaves I expect an OC who will utilise continue to play to Joes strengths which will mean he should flourish (especially vs non playoff defenses in reg season)
Flacco is so durable.
If he continues to play as he has last 4 (meaningful) games especially in regular season, wth his obvious ability to up his play in important games he will be a lock.
Definite pro bowl selection next yr IMHO
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