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08-13-2012, 01:54 PM #38
Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent
All due respect, but I still don't agree:
http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/zo...n=widgetphase1
Zogby already says he's seeing a jump in poll numbers in swing states, which is exactly what I said picking Ryan should do over trying to nab one state.
And I don't know how Ryan won't play in Florida considering his medicare plan doesn't hurt them at all. Once he reminds Florida seniors that Obama cut Medicare by $700 billion to fund Obamacare, I think Florida will swing back pretty quickly.
Patience Houston, patience. :)
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08-13-2012, 02:03 PM #39Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent
Rasmussen just released a poll with his popularity rating in WI. It's only at 39%. 35% have no opinion of him. You can spin that both ways, of course.
Zogby is the only poll showing that then. As I pointed out, he's not very well liked in WI and Gallup just put out a poll saying he has numbers similar to Dan Quayle. Any "jump" is going to be short-term and Zogby himself calls it a bump in the link. Not to mention, this particular poll puts them tied. Tied is where they've been all summer.
As for Florida and the seniors, I don't doubt what you say. I agree with what Obamacare and the Ryan Plan means to to seniors. My point is that the narrative is already written. You're arguing what the plan says and means. I am arguing that it does not mater. That it's already in their heads that Ryan is the dude that will walk then into the grave. And you can thank the AARP for that. They have been lying to their members for decades and they lap it up.Last edited by HoustonRaven; 08-13-2012 at 02:10 PM.
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08-13-2012, 02:14 PM #41Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent
Yeah, but you still need to look at the demographics of the state. It's very similar to Maryland in some ways. Much like Baltimore and PG County control MD, two cities control the state. You have Milwaukee; which is Obama 100%. It's a pro-union city and the GOP hardly has a presence there. They hated Scott Walker. Madison is even more blue. It's a college town and the states capital.
Suppose Ryan improves his approval numbers there. I still don't think it's enough to overcome the influence of those two hyper-partisan areas of the state.
Possible? Yes.
Likely? Jury is out, IMO. The fastest way to change that message is the media. I don't see the MSM helping anytime soon. I'd like to see Ryan hold some old fashioned town hall style meetings with seniors and take a ton of questions from them. That way you don't need the media. Reagan was the master of this. He bypassed the media frequently.
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08-13-2012, 02:22 PM #43Legendary RSR Poster
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08-13-2012, 02:26 PM #44
Re: Paul Ryan VP announcement imminent
There are always two notable jumps in any cycle.
One after the VP announcement, and one after the convention.
The trick is to sustain them among the attacks, exposures of truth, etc.
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08-13-2012, 03:11 PM #45
Washington Post now has a similar poll showing Ryan has better favorables, and he is highest among seniors.
As for Florida and the seniors, I don't doubt what you say. I agree with what Obamacare and the Ryan Plan means to to seniors. My point is that the narrative is already written. You're arguing what the plan says and means. I am arguing that it does not mater. That it's already in their heads that Ryan is the dude that will walk then into the grave. And you can thank the AARP for that. They have been lying to their members for decades and they lap it up.
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08-13-2012, 03:14 PM #46
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