All of a sudden - the Ravens are very young.

**moviemaniacx** · 05-17-2018, 11:08 AM

First Ballot

The numbers speak for themselves:

Tackles: 812
Quarterback sacks: 125.5
Interceptions: 7
Forced fumbles: 34
Fumble recoveries: 12
Defensive touchdowns: 2

Super Bowl champion (XLVII)
7× Pro Bowl (2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2017)
First-team All-Pro (2011)
Second-team All-Pro (2008)
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (2011)
NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year (2003)

**WNCRavensFan** · 05-17-2018, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by moviemaniacx

First Ballot

The numbers speak for themselves:

Tackles: 812
Quarterback sacks: 125.5
Interceptions: 7
Forced fumbles: 34
Fumble recoveries: 12
Defensive touchdowns: 2

Super Bowl champion (XLVII)
7× Pro Bowl (2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2017)
First-team All-Pro (2011)
Second-team All-Pro (2008)
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (2011)
NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year (2003)

Tackles: 1173
Quarterback sacks: 128.0
Interceptions: 8
Forced fumbles: 40
Fumble recoveries: 29
Defensive touchdowns: 0

No Superbowl
6× Pro Bowl (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993)
Second-team All-Pro (1984, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993)

This is Rickey Jackson. Similar player. Hall of Famer, but not first ballot.

Really though it depends on who is available at the same time as Suggs.

**leachisabeast** · 05-18-2018, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

Tackles: 1173
Quarterback sacks: 128.0
Interceptions: 8
Forced fumbles: 40
Fumble recoveries: 29
Defensive touchdowns: 0

No Superbowl
6× Pro Bowl (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993)
Second-team All-Pro (1984, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993)

This is Rickey Jackson. Similar player. Hall of Famer, but not first ballot.

Really though it depends on who is available at the same time as Suggs.

Suggs still has a couple of seasons left and should add 10-20 sacks onto his current numbers. He should be able to reach 140 sacks.

**Mark** · 05-18-2018, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Young is certainly fast but he was kind of a spaz at UCLA. He's going to have learn to play the position. I could see him playing well on special teams. Young is going to be a project on defense but he has a ton of natural athletic talent.

Young's physical talent presents a lot to work with. One NFL scout said his instincts were poor and he was the first player at his level that he ever scouted whose instincts were worse as a Senior than before. I was surprised that we picked him where we did but we may feel all he needs is coaching to get something out of him. Much better risk/reward than Correa in the 2nd. Let's hope we can develop him.

**moviemaniacx** · 05-18-2018, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

Tackles: 1173
Quarterback sacks: 128.0
Interceptions: 8
Forced fumbles: 40
Fumble recoveries: 29
Defensive touchdowns: 0

No Superbowl
6× Pro Bowl (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993)
Second-team All-Pro (1984, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993)

This is Rickey Jackson. Similar player. Hall of Famer, but not first ballot.

Really though it depends on who is available at the same time as Suggs.

I'm not too familiar with Rickey Jackson but I understand where you're coming from. Very similar numbers, plus according to PFR Jackson did win Super Bowl XXIX with the 49ers though he only registered 3.5 sacks and 2 fumble recoveries that season.

However, with it being a different era of football I think Suggs will be viewed differently. The DPOY and DROY plus the respect he gets from the national media puts Suggs over the top in my opinion.

**BcRaven** · 05-18-2018, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Suggs still has a couple of seasons left and should add 10-20 sacks onto his current numbers. He should be able to reach 140 sacks.

While I respect and admire Suggs, he will be 36 in October. IIRC last year he came into camp in great shape. If he continues to do so for the next couple of years, you could be right. I just think that's a tall order for someone his age... Bc

**s.r.genovese** · 05-18-2018, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

Tackles: 1173
Quarterback sacks: 128.0
Interceptions: 8
Forced fumbles: 40
Fumble recoveries: 29
Defensive touchdowns: 0

No Superbowl
6× Pro Bowl (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993)
Second-team All-Pro (1984, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993)

This is Rickey Jackson. Similar player. Hall of Famer, but not first ballot.

Really though it depends on who is available at the same time as Suggs.

It's not all about stats. It's more about perception. The voters all seem to perceive him as one of the best ever. That, combined with his very good numbers, should get him in the first ballot. The media never thought of Rickey Jackson in the same way that the media thinks of Suggs.

**Ravenswintitle** · 05-20-2018, 09:55 AM

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**BigPlayReceiver** · 05-21-2018, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by s.r.genovese

It's not all about stats. It's more about perception. The voters all seem to perceive him as one of the best ever. That, combined with his very good numbers, should get him in the first ballot. The media never thought of Rickey Jackson in the same way that the media thinks of Suggs.

Joe Namath thinks that you may have a point.

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**WNCRavensFan** · 05-21-2018, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Suggs still has a couple of seasons left and should add 10-20 sacks onto his current numbers. He should be able to reach 140 sacks.

It has me curious as to

a) how many more seasons he will play
b) if those seasons will all be with the Ravens
c) who retires the same year as him

Selfishly, I really want him to be a Ravens lifer and join Ray Lewis and Jonathan Ogden in that regard. It's a bit of a bitter feeling that Ed Reed isn't.

**BPF2** · 05-21-2018, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

It has me curious as to

a) how many more seasons he will play
b) if those seasons will all be with the Ravens
c) who retires the same year as him

Selfishly, I really want him to be a Ravens lifer and join Ray Lewis and Jonathan Ogden in that regard. It's a bit of a bitter feeling that Ed Reed isn't.

I want Suggs and Brady to retire the same year and have to sit on the stage in Canton next to each other. Going in the same year as #12 would make for an absolutely hilarious induction speech from T-Sizzle.

**WrongBaldy** · 05-21-2018, 11:06 AM

The Baltimore Sun's Jeff Zrebiec reports Ravens OG Nico Siragusa underwent a second surgery on his knee this offseason.

A fourth-round pick last year, Siragusa tore his ACL, MCL, and PCL during training camp last season. It is a devastating injury which already had him questionable for training camp, and the second surgery adds another layer of doubt. If he can get back, Siragusa should compete for a backup job.