Obama's (and the DNC's) worst nightmare.

**4G63** · 02-12-2011, 02:11 PM

Just think, an African American who speaks to the issues without a Teleprompter. Too bad he's a Conservative that'll open some minds. Add in some Allen West as VP and you've got an Unbeatable combination!!

Cain/West 2012! :usa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDkacOveF0

**AirFlacco** · 02-12-2011, 02:18 PM

LOL - The old teleprompter.

Won't matter, the DEMs will find a way to rig the election.

I NEVER USE A TELEPROMPTER!

BRUCE CUNNINGHAM

LOL

**TLaMana** · 02-12-2011, 03:23 PM

I found out about Cain a couple of years ago. It will take a lot of effort to get his message out if he intends to run.

**4G63** · 03-31-2011, 12:18 PM

Absolutely Herman....they ARE scared of you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7354AsuLng

**NCRAVEN** · 03-31-2011, 01:48 PM

This thread is racist, you guys would only vote for him cause he's black

**Galen Sevinne** · 03-31-2011, 05:33 PM

I was getting ready to add Cain to my "Another GOP 2012 Prez. Cand. Bites the Dust" thread but that thread is getting too long wth all the GOP candidates killing their chances with idiotic comments.

Here is the now infamous candidacy killing comment Cain recently said on the record:

KEYES: You came under a bit of controversy this week for some of the comments made about Muslims in general. Would you be comfortable appointing a Muslim, either in your cabinet or as a federal judge?

CAIN: No, I will not. And here’s why. There is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government. It does not belong in our government. This is what happened in Europe. And little by little, to try and be politically correct, they made this little change, they made this little change. And now they’ve got a social problem that they don’t know what to do with hardly.

The question that was asked that “raised some questions” and, as my grandfather said, “I does not care, I feel the way I feel.” I was asked, “what is the role of Islam in America?” I thought it was an odd question. I said the role of Islam in America is for those that believe in Islam to practice it and leave us alone. Just like Christianity. We have a First Amendment. And I get upset when the Muslims in this country, some of them, try to force their Sharia law onto the rest of us.

"No I will not" even consider a Muslim. So go ahead and tell me how that is not bigotry? Please, I am all ears connies.

I think there is a little legal issue there as well.

Just the fact that someone would go on the record with such a heinous remark really cuts to his temperment and judgement.

Of course, every connie response will somehow defend this bigot.

Bring it boys.

**4G63** · 03-31-2011, 06:56 PM

It was wrong but he can backtrack, just like 0bama did when he said he was going to see his 57th State. :D

There's no legal issue unless he actively denies a Muslim appointee. There's not Affirmative Action with Presidential appointees so it'll never happen should he be elected. He'll be fine should he decide to run.

**Galen Sevinne** · 03-31-2011, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by 4G63

It was wrong but he can backtrack, just like 0bama did when he said he was going to see his 57th State. :D

There's no legal issue unless he actively denies a Muslim appointee. There's not Affirmative Action with Presidential appointees so it'll never happen should he be elected. He'll be fine should he decide to run.

wow Obama's 57 state defense...never saw that one coming!

i was more awaiting Traps defense of Cain's bigotry to be my dislike of Palin and how I am therefore bigoted towards women (nothing like generalizing an entire population from one person:grbac:) but that's Trap.

In regards to comparing Cains intended bigoted comments aginst Muslims with Obama's unintended moment of not paying attention. Very different.

**TheExtraPoint** · 03-31-2011, 10:44 PM

The guy both calls liberals "stupid" and berates them for name-calling in the same speech... Impressive.

But seriously, any time an African-American discriminates against people of another background, race, religion, or ethnicity, it highlights how narrow their appreciation for their own history in fact is. I think it's sad.

I also find it ironic that you'd be willing to excuse Cain's commentary when he "takes it back", but wouldn't offer our current President the same leniency when he offers an utterly insignificant freudian slip. If you honestly believe the former editor of the Harvard Law Review doesn't know how many states are in the US, I'd think any reasonable discussion about any issue regarding him is hopeless.

You are in fact right however; Cain will be unaffected by these comments. Conservative republicans will undoubtedly forgive him. Not because he's all of a sudden "right" (because a significant portion of his base likely agrees with the original comments he may or may not ultimately take back), but instead simply because he's a conservative republican.

In reality, there is no difference between the now infamous Glen Beck "10 percent of Muslims are terrorists" gem, and Cain's comments about not appointing Muslims strictly on the basis of being Muslim.

The sad fact is this - a significant faction of conservative politicians and pundits have tremendous difficulty discerning the difference between a radicalized fraction of a religion, and the vast majority of it's followers. And it is precisely that very ignorance that fosters the angst of the noticeable minority we all rightfully should fear.

Personally, I don't expect Mr. Cain to have very much success earning the Republican nomination. I think it's an uphill climb though I don't necessarily disagree with everything he says. In fact, I admire his sense of humor and oratorical composure. I'm not surprised he's been a success in business whatsoever. I also totally agree with the notion that we are over-legislated.

But comments like these speak to a person's core values. In the case of Mr. Cain, they at best indicate ignorance, and at worst, inexplicable intolerance given his own background.

**TLaMana** · 03-31-2011, 11:16 PM

It's not wrong and I like him even more for having the balls to not be PC and telling exactly what he thinks.

**NCRAVEN** · 04-01-2011, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by TLaMana

It's not wrong and I like him even more for having the balls to not be PC and telling exactly what he thinks.

And you're a bigot for agreeing with him but

;)

**4G63** · 04-01-2011, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by TheExtraPoint

The guy both calls liberals "stupid" and berates them for name-calling in the same speech... Impressive.

But seriously, any time an African-American discriminates against people of another background, race, religion, or ethnicity, it highlights how narrow their appreciation for their own history in fact is. I think it's sad.

When their religion is the basis for everything they do legally, you'll start to get it. His problem isn't the religion but rather the Sharia that comes with it.

Originally Posted by TheExtraPoint

I also find it ironic that you'd be willing to excuse Cain's commentary when he "takes it back", but wouldn't offer our current President the same leniency when he offers an utterly insignificant freudian slip. If you honestly believe the former editor of the Harvard Law Review doesn't know how many states are in the US, I'd think any reasonable discussion about any issue regarding him is hopeless.

I'll give him leniency. I'm sure he was tired when he said that but that doesn't excuse that he said it. Words have meanings and all of those in the public eye need to be held equally accountable to them. Let me ask you this: Do you think John McCain or more importantly, Sarah Palin would have gotten the "oh, he/she's tired" attitude by the media if they had said the same thing before the election? Don't bother answering as I already know what it is.

Did you know that the Editor of the Harvard Law Review is an appointed position, by the faculty? His was based on "merit" and not by any extraordinary writings or ideas. Did you also know that 0bama never published a single article while Editor?

Originally Posted by TheExtraPoint

You are in fact right however; Cain will be unaffected by these comments. Conservative republicans will undoubtedly forgive him. Not because he's all of a sudden "right" (because a significant portion of his base likely agrees with the original comments he may or may not ultimately take back), but instead simply because he's a conservative republican.

In reality, there is no difference between the now infamous Glen Beck "10 percent of Muslims are terrorists" gem, and Cain's comments about not appointing Muslims strictly on the basis of being Muslim.

Its not the Muslim, its the Sharia! Why does every Democrat/Liberal always assume that when a Republican/conservative talks about Muslims they're only talking about terrorist ones? Do Democrats/Liberals not see that France, Holland, Germany, and Spain have issues with Sharia? We mustn't talk about Theo van Gogh's death for defending Muslim women against Muslim men using Sharia against them. Just continue to bury your heads in the sand as Sharia law rears its ugly head worldwide...

Originally Posted by TheExtraPoint

The sad fact is this - a significant faction of conservative politicians and pundits have tremendous difficulty discerning the difference between a radicalized fraction of a religion, and the vast majority of it's followers. And it is precisely that very ignorance that fosters the angst of the noticeable minority we all rightfully should fear.

Again, Sharia...not Terrorists! The fact that you think Sharia cannot be imposed when its already happening (and will likely continue) right here in the US lets me know you're uninformed on the subject. I'm here to fill you in. Even recent SCOTUS appointee Elena Kagan removed Constitutional Law as a requirement and substituted International/Comparative law to graduate Harvard Law School. Really?!? No ConLaw to graduate Harvard Law School?

Originally Posted by TheExtraPoint

Personally, I don't expect Mr. Cain to have very much success earning the Republican nomination. I think it's an uphill climb though I don't necessarily disagree with everything he says. In fact, I admire his sense of humor and oratorical composure. I'm not surprised he's been a success in business whatsoever. I also totally agree with the notion that we are over-legislated.

But comments like these speak to a person's core values. In the case of Mr. Cain, they at best indicate ignorance, and at worst, inexplicable intolerance given his own background.

He was wrong because the Constitution states nobody will be discriminated based on race or faith. As I said before, Presidential appointees can be anyone and aren't subject to affirmative action or any barometer other than political ones. Van Jones was appointed by 0bama as the green jobs czar but was removed when his communist/socialist worldview was put to video for all to see. 0bama had no choice but to unceremoniously remove him from his position. 0bama has numerous czars that I oppose based on their core beliefs. Cass Sunstein, Carol Browner, and John Holdren are on that list but you really can't do anything about them. What are their religions? Atheist? Catholic? Hindi? Does it matter?