O Hai Bucs Trollz

**akashicrecorder** · 11-28-2010, 08:18 PM

You guys were saying?

**RavenScallywag** · 11-28-2010, 08:21 PM

As predicted before, I think they will say "well, we sure made it a game didn't we? ON THE ROAD...against a 'clearly better' team...so yeah, we won this one really"

Look, most of us predicted a close, tough game. Ravens took control in first half, Freeman looked DAMN good running the no huddle, but our offense was up to the task to end this game today...

Blown calls on both sides will be a big argument too...phantom PI call on TB on the Mason TD drive, but then a phantom hold on the Rice TD, AND a mysterious overturn on the Freeman INT.

**Hound** · 11-28-2010, 08:28 PM

AmericanMuscle ate his crow in the other thread. Said our defense got after freeman really well.

**Lee Van Cleef** · 11-28-2010, 08:28 PM

The Redding play didn't look like an int at all to me.

I'm more bothered by the clear lack of DPI against Ruud.

**Corey** · 11-28-2010, 08:31 PM

Frankly comparing Freeman to Flacco right now is an insult to Flacco. Freeman looked like utter trash for the vast majority of that game. And he was fortunate to have Reed drop not 1 but 2 pics on the same drive and have Ray Lewis pull that int away from Redding. His stat line is bad but he played a heck of a lot worse than it looks.

**Corey** · 11-28-2010, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef

The Redding play didn't look like an int at all to me.

I'm more bothered by the clear lack of DPI against Ruud.

Yeah, we have Ray to blame for that one. Redding had it in his grasp and Ray is the one that knocked it out. Heat of the moment type thing but would have been nice if he wasnt so aggressive that one time.

**RavenScallywag** · 11-28-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Corey

Frankly comparing Freeman to Flacco right now is an insult to Flacco. Freeman looked like utter trash for the vast majority of that game. And he was fortunate to have Reed drop not 1 but 2 pics on the same drive and have Ray Lewis pull that int away from Redding. His stat line is bad but he played a heck of a lot worse than it looks.

At the same time, you have to respect that a couple plays were beauties that his receivers didn't make plays on.

Namely, the Spurlock non-TD...bad coverage, perfect throw, WR just got turned around and made a poor attempt to catch. That was a SURE TD.

I think their biggest argument was Freeman's 4QComeback ability...which he showed some on that last drive for them, but it was too little too late, and without the no huddle, he wasn't getting it done against our D.

**NC Raven** · 11-28-2010, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

I think their biggest argument was Freeman's 4QComeback ability...which he showed some on that last drive for them, but it was too little too late, and without the no huddle, he wasn't getting it done against our D.

Well, when a team is down 2TDs with half a quarter left, the first no-huddle TD is kind of a given. The Ravens sat back and funneled them into the middle of the field and, even with all they "hurry up" still made them burn about 4 minutes off the clock to get there.

It's the game-tying or game-winning TD drive that matters, and we didn't get to see how that would have gone.

**Mista T** · 11-28-2010, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Corey

Frankly comparing Freeman to Flacco right now is an insult to Flacco. Freeman looked like utter trash for the vast majority of that game. And he was fortunate to have Reed drop not 1 but 2 pics on the same drive and have Ray Lewis pull that int away from Redding. His stat line is bad but he played a heck of a lot worse than it looks.

Freeman needs a lot of seasoning to go along with that fantastic physique. He showed some slick movement for such a big guy, but his passing sucked. I don't see him sticking in the big leagues long if he doesn't pass better than what we saw today.

Outside of St. Pierre and perhaps Sanchez, Freeman was the least threatening of all 2010 opponent QBs our team has faced.

**RavenScallywag** · 11-28-2010, 10:51 PM

That's a pretty bold statement when we've faced:

Charlie Batch
Seneca Wallace
Chad Henne
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Carson Palmer
Kyle Orton

I'd rate Freeman over at least the top 4 of those, maybe even over the last two as well.

**bretts** · 11-28-2010, 11:45 PM

i dont think fitzpatrick is as bad as everyone makes him out to be. if it werent for the worst drop of the year he throws the game winner against the steelers and he definitely didnt look bad against us

**mjones73** · 11-29-2010, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by bretts

i dont think fitzpatrick is as bad as everyone makes him out to be. if it werent for the worst drop of the year he throws the game winner against the steelers and he definitely didnt look bad against us

If it wasn't for the tipped ball that the hairball came up with their second to final drive in the 4th quarter it could have been done with right there... They need to get that man some receivers that can hold on to the ball.