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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    It’s not her money. That money was donated to the Biden/Harris ticket. Yes, keep her as the VP for the campaign cash and put someone at the top of the ticket who can win the upper Midwest states that the Democrats need to win this election.

    The U.S. has never elected a woman for President much less a black woman. If the stakes are really that high in this election, then they should pick someone who can win and not go all DEI about it. Harris is a bad campaigner or at least she was in 2020. Also, what has she accomplished as VP? I can’t think of anything. She mostly speaks to minority audiences about topics like abortion rights. That’s the biggest layup for any Democratic candidate.


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    It's more hers than the leap frogger's. Admit it, keeping her on the ticket at all is all about not losing that money. The Democrats always follow the money. Love to find out how much they paid Joe and Jill, who can't go up the hill, to go away and shut his mouth and not throw anyone under the bus.
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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven View Post
    It's more hers than the leap frogger's. Admit it, keeping her on the ticket at all is all about not losing that money. The Democrats always follow the money. Love to find out how much they paid Joe and Jill, who can't go up the hill, to go away and shut his mouth and not throw anyone under the bus.
    I just said that. Keeping Harris on the ticket is about keeping access to the campaign funds the Biden/Harris campaign has raised and to not piss off black women who the Democrats need. The Democrats need to work out an arranged marriage quickly with Harris as the VP and minimize in-fighting.


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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    Well, Biden just stepped aside and endorsed Harris. I think Trump will beat Harris, so what was the point of pushing Biden out if they were only going to nominate someone who will still lose?

    If I were the Democrats, I would be cold-blooded about it. Keep Harris as the VP for the campaign funds and pick someone at the top of the ticket who can win PA, MI, WI, and MN.


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    Harris might be better for them down ballot. They can't leave her as VP for someone else. It is openly admitting she isn't capable of the job. She either has to go or be the nominee.





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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    I just said that. Keeping Harris on the ticket is about keeping access to the campaign funds the Biden/Harris campaign has raised and to not piss off black women who the Democrats need. The Democrats need to work out an arranged marriage quickly with Harris as the VP and minimize in-fighting.


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    So, she isn't capable of being president but we need the money, so we will have her sitting in waiting even though we don't believe in her.

    That is what the Democrats would be implying. She's a tool for cash but really has no business being the POTUS.

    I think they are stuck with her at the top to keep that money available. Either that, or she has to go.





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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    So, she isn't capable of being president but we need the money, so we will have her sitting in waiting even though we don't believe in her.

    That is what the Democrats would be implying. She's a tool for cash but really has no business being the POTUS.

    I think they are stuck with her at the top to keep that money available. Either that, or she has to go.
    There is a difference between being able to serve as President and being able to win an election. Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, and John McCain were all capable of being the President but couldn’t win an election.


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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    I wonder how Hillary is doing?
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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Willbacker View Post
    I wonder how Hillary is doing?
    She’s probably in contact with whoever is deciding who’s on the Democratic ticket.





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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    There is a difference between being able to serve as President and being able to win an election. Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, and John McCain were all capable of being the President but couldn’t win an election.


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    I disagree about Hillary. She wouldn’t have been anywhere without Bill. She had no business being Secretary of State. It was the same kind of hire as Kamala for VP.





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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Willbacker View Post
    I wonder how Hillary is doing?
    She's probably polling lower than Kamala. So let's recap what Kamala has accomplished. I believe Biden gave her only 1 job to do officially the past 4 years that most people know about, and that was to fix the border. She failed miserably, so bad that the border is the 2nd most important issue behind the economy in this country. not an impressive resume, unless your name is Willie Brown. I'm already hearing the media kissing her ass about how brilliant she is. Why would anyone believe anything the media says. By the way, this was a flat out coup. Interesting that Obama has not endorsed her yet.
    If Joe is not fit to run for the Presidency, how is he fit to finish out his Presidency?
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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven View Post
    She's probably polling lower than Kamala. So let's recap what Kamala has accomplished. I believe Biden gave her only 1 job to do officially the past 4 years that most people know about, and that was to fix the border. She failed miserably, so bad that the border is the 2nd most important issue behind the economy in this country. not an impressive resume, unless your name is Willie Brown. I'm already hearing the media kissing her ass about how brilliant she is. Why would anyone believe anything the media says. By the way, this was a flat out coup. Interesting that Obama has not endorsed her yet.
    If Joe is not fit to run for the Presidency, how is he fit to finish out his Presidency?
    That’s what a lot of house republicans are saying. Personally, I think it’d be a mistake to pressure him to resign. That would put Kamala as the incumbent and she’d only have 4 months to not screw things up any worse than they are. She could just ride out those 4 months and then say “see, I’m qualified.” The fear of her incompetence may be overcome by many if she’s actually “doing” the job.





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    Re: Biden stepping down?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    That’s what a lot of house republicans are saying. Personally, I think it’d be a mistake to pressure him to resign. That would put Kamala as the incumbent and she’d only have 4 months to not screw things up any worse than they are. She could just ride out those 4 months and then say “see, I’m qualified.” The fear of her incompetence may be overcome by many if she’s actually “doing” the job.
    I think it's all BS showmanship from the Republicans. If they wanted to get rid of Joe, why didn't the try when he was deemed unfit and too senile to stand trial for his classified material possession.
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  12. Re: Biden stepping down?

    "Joe Biden’s withdrawal from the presidential race on Sunday only affirms what we’ve known, despite media running interference for him for years, about his incapacity and inability to handle the rigors of another presidential election campaign. The American people saw it clearly. That’s s why they prefer President Trump’s reelection by overwhelming margins.

    For months, members of the left and the liberal media have tried to pull the curtain over the eyes of the American electorate. They played American voters for fools in the weeks following the debate after the president’s cognitive decline was made abundantly clear. But now, Joe Biden has all but admitted to what his adversaries, and even members of his own party, have said repeatedly – he is unfit to serve in the Office of the President for another four years.

    This isn’t the end of the story, though, and we cannot allow the left to turn a new page without accountability. The media must be held accountable for its lies on behalf of a decrepit president for so long. The courtiers and aides who defended their power and privilege at his expense, including Jill and Hunter, must be held accountable. And, most of all, the Democratic power structure that just successfully executed a coup against a sitting president must be held accountable.

    In the timing of this decision, the Biden administration and its Democratic allies have successfully invalidated their party’s primary system. Voters across the country will now no longer have the chance to elect a Democratic nominee for president through primary elections; rather, an open convention will grant a few thousand party elites the opportunity to decide on behalf of the many. This is not an electoral process fit for the democratic republic our founding fathers established.

    Amid all of this, it is shocking to think that some still argue that President Trump is the "threat to democracy." Take one look at how the Biden administration and the Democratic Party have handled their 2024 presidential nomination and you will see where the real threat to our democracy lies.

    For all this, the question remains: if Joe cannot run, how can Joe preside? If he is unfit to be a candidate, then he is absolutely unfit to be a president. Section 4 of the 25th Amendment has not been invoked in the history of our nation… perhaps it is time for that to change.

    Yet, Democrats continue to outdo themselves, showing just how out-of-touch they are with the American people. Just look at Biden’s endorsement of Kamala Harris on Sunday. They are elevating the woman who has supposedly been in charge of our Southern border since 2021 – the same border that has proven to be the top issue for most voters this November.

    A senescent and incompetent president who has deemed himself unfit to run has endorsed yet another incompetent, unfit vice president to follow in his footsteps. If it had not been clear enough already, one thing is certain today – no member of this banana administration is fit to lead our great United States of America.

    Throughout this race, we have heard President Reagan’s famous question: "Are you better off today than you were four years ago?" Well, it seems Joe Biden has finally answered that question for himself – no.

    America deserves a president. A real one. It isn’t Joe Biden. And it isn’t Kamala Harris.
    Fortunately, we have a better option on the ballot."





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