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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    'I Don't Know Why I Said It!' Dallas Cowboys' Jerry Jones Reacts to CeeDee Lamb Contract 'Urgency' Controversy

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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Oh no, make no mistake about it. I LOVE Derrick Henry. He is my favorite RB of this generation and that was a great signing. My frustration comes in to where it doesn't change the reality that we can only win one way. The only difference is that it goes from 'Lamar has to rush for 100 for us to win a playoff game', to 'Henry has to rush for 100 for us to win a playoff game'. Regardless, we still cannot win a playoff game any other way, but somehow seem convinced that DCs aren't going to be able to figure us out.
    If it wasn't for Zay turning over the ball on the 1 inch line the Ravens would have won and won by passing.





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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    If it wasn't for Zay turning over the ball on the 1 inch line the Ravens would have won and won by passing.
    Let’s be real, we would have won that game because of our defense. Not because of anything we were doing on offense.





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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    'I Don't Know Why I Said It!' Dallas Cowboys' Jerry Jones Reacts to CeeDee Lamb Contract 'Urgency' Controversy
    I do….

    Jerry Jones is on record saying that it is more important to keep the name Dallas Cowboys in the media - any publicity is good publicity..: than it is to win.

    He is more concerned about the value of the brand Dallas Cowboys than winning. He’s succeeding in that front with the Lamb/Dak mess.


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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    If it wasn't for Zay turning over the ball on the 1 inch line the Ravens would have won and won by passing.
    Would have also had to not throw the forced triple coverage interception late as well, which perhaps you are suggesting we wouldn’t have made the desperate heave had Zay scored, and that is certainly possible.


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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Would have also had to not throw the forced triple coverage interception late as well, which perhaps you are suggesting we wouldn’t have made the desperate heave had Zay scored, and that is certainly possible.


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    What I'm saying is that the Ravens can win by passing the ball with this roster. Last year the Ravens were 30th in passing attempts by design and not necessity. The 49ers with Aiyuk and Deebo and Kittle were 32nd in passing attempts. Anyone think they can't win playoffs game in one way? Why would anyone want a $30+ million a year WR from that roster if they were a team that could only win by running the ball endlessly?

    If I thought CeeDee Lamb was actually available I would definitely consider it. Unlike Aiyuk, Lamb really is a gamebreaking superstar at the position. However even if the Ravens added Lamb I don't think they are now going to be a balanced offense. It's still going to be run heavy and effective. That would weigh in with the decision. This offense won't become the Cowboys just because Lamb is added. Harbaugh believes in this. The Ravens did lead the NFL in passing attempts twice under Harbaugh in 2015 and 2016. They went 5-11 and 8-8. It didn't work and I definitely don't think it suits the roster we have now.

    Even if Lamb is added it's still going to be the same style of offense. The passing game should be a lot more effective but the passing attempts won't significantly change.





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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    What I'm saying is that the Ravens can win by passing the ball with this roster. Last year the Ravens were 30th in passing attempts by design and not necessity. The 49ers with Aiyuk and Deebo and Kittle were 32nd in passing attempts. Anyone think they can't win playoffs game in one way? Why would anyone want a $30+ million a year WR from that roster if they were a team that could only win by running the ball endlessly?

    If I thought CeeDee Lamb was actually available I would definitely consider it. Unlike Aiyuk, Lamb really is a gamebreaking superstar at the position. However even if the Ravens added Lamb I don't think they are now going to be a balanced offense. It's still going to be run heavy and effective. That would weigh in with the decision. This offense won't become the Cowboys just because Lamb is added. Harbaugh believes in this. The Ravens did lead the NFL in passing attempts twice under Harbaugh in 2015 and 2016. They went 5-11 and 8-8. It didn't work and I definitely don't think it suits the roster we have now.

    Even if Lamb is added it's still going to be the same style of offense. The passing game should be a lot more effective but the passing attempts won't significantly change.
    Good stuff and I agree.

    I don't think we lost that game against the Chiefs because we "couldn't win throwing the ball"...we lost it because of the turnover differential.

    For all the shit the offense gets in the playoffs about being one dimensional and losing because of it, the bigger thing IMHO is the turnovers...the offense including Lamar just seems to turn the ball over at the most crucial times while the defense can't get any turnovers to balance it out themselves. Not counting 2022 playoffs where Lamar didn't play...-3 in 2019 (Defense forces zero turnovers), -1 in 2020 (backbreaking pick 6 and again, defense forced zero turnovers), and again -3 in 2023 (Defense again forced zero turnovers).

    The team needs to learn to protect the ball better on offense and the defense needs to find a way to get timely turnovers more than "being a passing offense". Fix the turnover battle in pressure situations and we can and should beat anybody.

    All that being said, yes, if Lamb was truly available, he'd be the guy I'd be pushing for. I think the Niners asking price for Aiyuk is crazy if the 2 first round picks reports are true. AJ Brown who has been a much better WR went for just a first and change.
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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    What I'm saying is that the Ravens can win by passing the ball with this roster. Last year the Ravens were 30th in passing attempts by design and not necessity. The 49ers with Aiyuk and Deebo and Kittle were 32nd in passing attempts. Anyone think they can't win playoffs game in one way? Why would anyone want a $30+ million a year WR from that roster if they were a team that could only win by running the ball endlessly?

    If I thought CeeDee Lamb was actually available I would definitely consider it. Unlike Aiyuk, Lamb really is a gamebreaking superstar at the position. However even if the Ravens added Lamb I don't think they are now going to be a balanced offense. It's still going to be run heavy and effective. That would weigh in with the decision. This offense won't become the Cowboys just because Lamb is added. Harbaugh believes in this. The Ravens did lead the NFL in passing attempts twice under Harbaugh in 2015 and 2016. They went 5-11 and 8-8. It didn't work and I definitely don't think it suits the roster we have now.

    Even if Lamb is added it's still going to be the same style of offense. The passing game should be a lot more effective but the passing attempts won't significantly change.
    Do not disagree much at all.


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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Our offensive philosophy is not predicated on having an elite receiver. That doesn’t mean that Aiyuk and Lamb don’t deserve the figure. They just will never get it from us.

    I’m sure Zay will be at that number in a couple years though.





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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Only lamb to be had here:






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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    What I'm saying is that the Ravens can win by passing the ball with this roster. Last year the Ravens were 30th in passing attempts by design and not necessity. The 49ers with Aiyuk and Deebo and Kittle were 32nd in passing attempts. Anyone think they can't win playoffs game in one way? Why would anyone want a $30+ million a year WR from that roster if they were a team that could only win by running the ball endlessly?

    If I thought CeeDee Lamb was actually available I would definitely consider it. Unlike Aiyuk, Lamb really is a gamebreaking superstar at the position. However even if the Ravens added Lamb I don't think they are now going to be a balanced offense. It's still going to be run heavy and effective. That would weigh in with the decision. This offense won't become the Cowboys just because Lamb is added. Harbaugh believes in this. The Ravens did lead the NFL in passing attempts twice under Harbaugh in 2015 and 2016. They went 5-11 and 8-8. It didn't work and I definitely don't think it suits the roster we have now.

    Even if Lamb is added it's still going to be the same style of offense. The passing game should be a lot more effective but the passing attempts won't significantly change.
    They didn’t build either of those passing offenses to work in 15’ or 16’ and they looked to the quick passing game as an extension of the run, after they went into the season with the intention to run and it bombed. An offense with Lamb, Zay, Andrews and Likely, in Monken’s second year, would be built to pass and pass very effectively in a higher volume.
    Last edited by The Excellector; 08-09-2024 at 12:38 PM.





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    Re: We Should Trade for CeeDee Lamb.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    So yes, but…. Let’s be realistic, what does that really mean?

    $36m/year, 4-5 year deal, multiple firsts and a starting quality player or two?

    So (2) firsts, Likely and Cleveland plus the largest contract in NFL history for a non-QB?

    Do we really need to make that deal?

    Don’t honestly think we can get him cheaper in any way?


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