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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadeRaven View Post
    Hmm no I think the different is one side believes that they should enforce their beliefs onto everyone and one side does not.

    I am not interested in living under Christian Sharia Law which is what Christian Nationalist and Seven Mountain Dominions want.


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    Actually, it is you forcing your beliefs onto others. It is staring you right in the face. You have a problem with Butker calling those who believe as he does to live up to those beliefs. You're the one wanting to shut him down. You're the one wanting him to think and live as you do.





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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadeRaven View Post
    What percentage of modern christians do you think are woke?

    Is the modern church going to divide and remove their place amongst the Pughs?

    The idea that there isnt room for progressive christians is a wild Idea and is exactly why certain people arent sticking around.

    I have heard it is tough for non-MAGA christians to find churches.

    Who do yall think is currently more isolated, right wing or liberal christians?
    You know very little about progressive Christians. I am VERY familiar with them, and despite our differences I love them, and call many friends.

    I was a United Methodist. I am now a Global Methodist. Tell me about who was forced out. And in some areas, including this one, at great expense to get their buildings they paid for and maintained.

    Are you aware that most of the mainline denominations are woke and progressive? Are you aware they are losing their members in droves? Churches that are conservative and traditional are the ones growing.

    You have no idea what you are writing about. NONE.

    But that's par for you.





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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    You know very little about progressive Christians. I am VERY familiar with them, and despite our differences I love them, and call many friends.

    I was a United Methodist. I am now a Global Methodist. Tell me about who was forced out. And in some areas, including this one, at great expense to get their buildings they paid for and maintained.

    Are you aware that most of the mainline denominations are woke and progressive? Are you aware they are losing their members in droves? Churches that are conservative and traditional are the ones growing.

    You have no idea what you are writing about. NONE.

    But that's par for you.
    I would love numbers of this, would you say that the number of Christians is growing as a whole too?


    Although the idea that Progressive Christians are dying and being forced out is interesting considering Butker said he was being persecuted and was in the minority

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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadeRaven View Post
    I would love numbers of this, would you say that the number of Christians is growing as a whole too?


    Although the idea that Progressive Christians are dying and being forced out is interesting considering Butker said he was being persecuted and was in the minority

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    You have it backwards. It is the conservatives who are forced out from the mainline denominations.

    I would say that, as a whole, the number of Christians in the United States is CURRENTLY dropping. However, there are some interesting movements going on right now.

    As for the rest of the world, Christianity is growing, including in places like China, and likely Iran, though it is hard to get firm numbers out of there. Africa has more Methodists than any other continent.

    Again, you don't know what you are writing about. Put another par on your score card.





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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Lol, I give him a compliment, he then ignores my argument because it's indefensible, loses his mind, and insults an entire religion.





  6. Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by balbomb View Post
    Lol, I give him a compliment, he then ignores my argument because it's indefensible, loses his mind, and insults an entire religion.
    Classic mind control indoctrination. TDS personified. Poster Child material.





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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    I am curious about the conservative Progressive divide in the Christianity community. Do we think it turns violent like protestant vs catholics?

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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadeRaven View Post
    I am curious about the conservative Progressive divide in the Christianity community. Do we think it turns violent like protestant vs catholics?

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    LOL. No. It's good you are asking questions.





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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Its funny the same people buying Butker's jersey and making the NFL money are supposed to be protesting and boycotting the woke DEI NFL
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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    I feel like you somehow live in an information or possibly social bubble with no conservatives. We are the party of American exceptionalism, and of individual accountability. We don't follow rules laid out for us, in fact we are often arguing with each other. This is what happens when you believe in the strength of the individual vs the strength of the government.





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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    It just dawned on me this morning that NFL players and their families live up to gender role norms by and large due to the primary wage earners extreme ability to do so. I think that inherently attracts spouses interested in doing the same. NFL families, even coaches and support staff, by and large then conform to single wage earner with a supporting spouse at home. Caring for the house and family.

    And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that if everyone involved is happy and has options. Trying to suggest otherwise is actually the problem. Shaming women for CHOOSING to state at home and car for the house and kids is the real problem.


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    I agree. The only people triggered by this are the feminists intent on destroying this country by nullifying traditional families.
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    Re: Harrison Butker's Fantastic Commencement Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    I agree. The only people triggered by this are the feminists intent on destroying this country by nullifying traditional families.
    Well said by both of you. If they don't agree with it, ignore what he said and move on. But the cancel culture can't. They want their pound of flesh. They have to create a petition to try and get him fired. Fortunately, he plays for the Chiefs, where both the owner's wife and daughter, Chris Jones, and I'm guessing Andy Reid quietly is supporting what he said. Shame on the NFL for sticking their nose in it where it doesn't belong. God forbid they support the family unit. Instead, they have a number of domestic abusers still playing in the league and making large sums of money.
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