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  1. Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    And I don't. Trying to define yourself on a single issue is a bit of a stretch. And in any case, giving the government power to kill people is giving them more authority, something those of us on the spectrum I use don't want where I stand.

    You are very pro-government. I am very only necessary government, which is about 90% less than what we have.
    Agreed.





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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    I have seen some of these that are useful, what you posted I don't think is. RINO and moderate spots seem ad hoc without any real idea of where those types fit. They should fit in the area of wanting a good bit of government control. I am not talking about political positions, to me this is about government control. I want less, a lot less. I don't care what you think it good or bad government control. To me there is a necessary amount to enforce laws we almost all agree on, build roads, enforce contracts, that kind of stuff. Healthcare and housing and all the other kinds of crap, especially at the federal level, I want gone.
    Thatís probably not the best graphic example.

    Itís one I found quickly just to highlight what I was referencing.


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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by 2bynight View Post
    If center means moderate than you are correct. The left believes the death penalty is barbaric and it is inhuman to take a life - even of a murderer.

    https://veritas.enc.edu/2012/11/06/p...left-or-right/
    What else does center mean but moderate and held by a majority?

    In this case, I actually think both fat left and fat right are against it however.


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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    I put this graphic together to highlight my thoughts on the political spectrum.




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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I put this graphic together to highlight my thoughts on the political spectrum.




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    Mark me down at a 45 degree angle top right corner.


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  6. Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    I guess put me down for a 2-3:00......Bring back Reagan





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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    And I don't. Trying to define yourself on a single issue is a bit of a stretch. And in any case, giving the government power to kill people is giving them more authority, something those of us on the spectrum I use don't want where I stand.

    You are very pro-government. I am very only necessary government, which is about 90% less than what we have.
    Not trying to define myself on a single issue. Jonboy asked me for ONE example of a belief of mine that is conservative or moderate. Re-read his post to me. I provided one. Now I get jumped on because I provided what he asked for. Bullshit. If you're going to attack me for every post I make at least be selective instead of a widespread scatter pattern.

    I am pro-government for certain areas and less gov't for others. I have personally seen what happens when the poor fringe members of society cannot make ends meet, cannot get jobs because of mental health issues, cannot afford food for their kids so eat at crap like McD's, loses all their money due to cancer treatment. So yes, I believe society (also includes gov't) has a responsibility to help those who need it the most. That means allocating funds. I do not believe we are in disagreement here.
    Last edited by 2bynight; 10-03-2023 at 06:25 PM.





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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    What else does center mean but moderate and held by a majority?

    In this case, I actually think both fat left and fat right are against it however.


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    I have never heard of the far right being against the death penalty. Examples?





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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    And I don't. And in any case, giving the government power to kill people is giving them more authority, something those of us on the spectrum I use don't want where I stand.
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    If this guy had actually harmed her - I would be all for the bullet: https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/us/mi...day/index.html. You believe this would be giving too much authority to the gov't. However, the gov't is supposed to be enacting laws for the good of the people. Had the little girl been physically harmed (heaven knows she has emotional harm for certain) I see no reason this guy should continue to breath.





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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by 2bynight View Post
    If center means moderate than you are correct. The left believes the death penalty is barbaric and it is inhuman to take a life - even of a murderer.

    https://veritas.enc.edu/2012/11/06/p...left-or-right/
    They have no problem killing unborn babies.





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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I put this graphic together to highlight my thoughts on the political spectrum.




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    See, it is wrong to me. I am a "Religious Fundamentalist" in that I believe in the fundamentals of Christianity. That has absolutely zero to do with my political views which are libertarian and much closer to the top..

    Including someone's religious beliefs is not helpful. Their views on government are all that matter when trying to define a political spectrum. And in any case most religious people are not big government advocates. Wanting innocent life protected is not a big government position.





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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by 2bynight View Post
    I have never heard of the far right being against the death penalty. Examples?
    Me.





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