2024 Presidential Election

**Laxdad24** · 06-05-2023, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

He's also prior Navy. Clearly, I'm biased there... :D

And he actually served in combat. And was at Gitmo. Clearly he’s the choice for POTUS.

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**Laxdad24** · 06-05-2023, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by ThankyouArt!

DeSantis needs to find a way to tap in to Trump"s base, he's already made some inroads but he needs the majority of that base to have a shot. He needs to take the high road from Trump.......all he has to do is let Trump shoot himself in the foot......If Trump sees DeSantis picking up points Trump will want to go after him. DeSantis should let him........don't roll in the mud with him. DeSantis should wish Trump nothing but the best and stick to his platform. In order for ANY Republican candidate to win the nomination in 2024 must win over that Trump base.

All DeSantis has to do is be Trump without the baggage........without the bravado........which IMO he has been up to this point.

While I don’t disagree 100%. I think the power of MAGA is fading. The passing of the Debt Ceiling bill shows that. Trump told “his” people to hold out for everything they wanted or cause a default. McCarthy tried that at first …and then negotiated the best deal he could get Biden to take. Then the House and Senate GOP surprisingly passed the bill with a wide majority. Basically “Trump be damned “. Also having Trump endorsement wasn’t a sure win in the midterms.

DeSantis needs to flip and control a majority of the GOP voters. He really needs to show he’s the best candidate period. The Left can’t parade Joe out again.

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**wickedsolo** · 06-05-2023, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

While I don’t disagree 100%. I think the power of MAGA is fading. The passing of the Debt Ceiling bill shows that. Trump told “his” people to hold out for everything they wanted or cause a default. McCarthy tried that at first …and then negotiated the best deal he could get Biden to take. Then the House and Senate GOP surprisingly passed the bill with a wide majority. Basically “Trump be damned “. Also having Trump endorsement wasn’t a sure win in the midterms.

DeSantis needs to flip and control a majority of the GOP voters. He really needs to show he’s the best candidate period. The Left can’t parade Joe out again.

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None of it matters if the RNC allows the DNC to get away with Election Day shenanigans.

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**Laxdad24** · 06-05-2023, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

None of it matters if the RNC allows the DNC to get away with Election Day shenanigans.

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That goes without saying. Really should be no need for all the BS mail in ballots.

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**ThankyouArt!** · 06-05-2023, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

While I don’t disagree 100%. I think the power of MAGA is fading. The passing of the Debt Ceiling bill shows that. Trump told “his” people to hold out for everything they wanted or cause a default. McCarthy tried that at first …and then negotiated the best deal he could get Biden to take. Then the House and Senate GOP surprisingly passed the bill with a wide majority. Basically “Trump be damned “. Also having Trump endorsement wasn’t a sure win in the midterms.

DeSantis needs to flip and control a majority of the GOP voters. He really needs to show he’s the best candidate period. The Left can’t parade Joe out again.

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As you said........I wouldn't disagree 100%......but what you mentioned was those in Congress. Most of them never liked Trump to begin with. When I say most there were very few that were on the Trump train. The 2020 election? You're right there were some Trump endorsed candidates that lost but that happens all the time, happened with Obama. That in itself doesn't tell me that Trump's base was abandoned him. Now, will those same undecided voters vote for Trump? I don't think they will. But Trumps loyal base is pretty loyal, I consider myself one o those voters. But this time around I am voting DeSantis, not because I want to abandon Trump......I just don't think he can win......for a multitude of reasons. None being that he wouldn't make a good President.

There were absolutely shenanigans in the 2020 election, as much as i think the Republicans and the Republican voters will do everything in their power to prevent that from happening again, I wouldn't discount a concerted effort to double down by the Democrats to do it again in 2024. Especially if Trump runs. DeSantis could illicit that behavior but nothing like Trump would. From here to eternity we will be fighting voting fraud. The system will be manipulated wherever and whenever possible.

IMO the only reason Biden would run is if he was having a rematch against Trump.......everyone would know the fix was in. It would be a complete joke.

**jonboy79** · 06-05-2023, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

That goes without saying. Really should be no need for all the BS mail in ballots.

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There never was, but that didn’t change them from changing the course of history.

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**Greg** · 06-05-2023, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by ThankyouArt!

DeSantis needs to find a way to tap in to Trump"s base, he's already made some inroads but he needs the majority of that base to have a shot. He needs to take the high road from Trump.......all he has to do is let Trump shoot himself in the foot......If Trump sees DeSantis picking up points Trump will want to go after him. DeSantis should let him........don't roll in the mud with him. DeSantis should wish Trump nothing but the best and stick to his platform. In order for ANY Republican candidate to win the nomination in 2024 must win over that Trump base.

All DeSantis has to do is be Trump without the baggage........without the bravado........which IMO he has been up to this point.

For people like me that are paying attention his very close ties to the Bushes and Rove are enough for me to stay away during the primaries. As long as he is close with them he is a RINO in my mind.

**CarrollCoRaven** · 06-05-2023, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

For people like me that are paying attention his very close ties to the Bushes and Rove are enough for me to stay away during the primaries. As long as he is close with them he is a RINO in my mind.

I don't see a RINO taking on Disney or CRT or any woke issue like DeSantis has.

**Laxdad24** · 06-05-2023, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven

I don't see a RINO taking on Disney or CRT or any woke issue like DeSantis has.

Yeah I don’t either. DeSantis IS the conservative that people like Greg want Trump to be.
DeSantis has been hardline on every issue it seems. Hell …until he became competition…Trump liked him. Lol.

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**blueridgemtnman** · 06-06-2023, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by ThankyouArt!

DeSantis needs to find a way to tap in to Trump"s base, he's already made some inroads but he needs the majority of that base to have a shot. He needs to take the high road from Trump.......all he has to do is let Trump shoot himself in the foot......If Trump sees DeSantis picking up points Trump will want to go after him. DeSantis should let him........don't roll in the mud with him. DeSantis should wish Trump nothing but the best and stick to his platform. In order for ANY Republican candidate to win the nomination in 2024 must win over that Trump base.

All DeSantis has to do is be Trump without the baggage........without the bravado........which IMO he has been up to this point.

Agreed.

**blah3** · 06-06-2023, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

None of it matters if the RNC allows the DNC to get away with Election Day shenanigans.

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Originally Posted by Laxdad24

That goes without saying. Really should be no need for all the BS mail in ballots.

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The RNC needs to lean into mail in ballots. They are not going away. They need to improve their outreach tremendously to get ballots into the hands of likely republican voters.

**Greg** · 06-06-2023, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven

I don't see a RINO taking on Disney or CRT or any woke issue like DeSantis has.

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

Yeah I don’t either. DeSantis IS the conservative that people like Greg want Trump to be.
DeSantis has been hardline on every issue it seems. Hell …until he became competition…Trump liked him. Lol.

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Let me say this first, I would LOVE to have DeSantis as our governor.

But I probably would have said something similar about George Bush prior to 2000.

I think DeSantis is to the right of the Bushes, but I also know if you lie down with flea bitten mongrels you are likely to become flea bitten yourself.

The RINOs will let you play hard-line conservative at the state level, especially in the more conservative states, but homey don't play that in DC.