Tim Scott enters the GOP presidential race

**darb72** · 05-25-2023, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

It still blows me away that guys like Greg still view Trump as a viable candidate. How can you be so solid in your conservative views ..and still like Trump? He’s the anti conservative. The man has done everything that you guys hate about the Left. He was the left until Obama! Him and Slick Willie were tight!

For the sake of the GOP and this Country please let guys like Scott and DeSantis actually win the nomination.

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Cut taxes. Less government involvement in our lives. Allowed small businesses to flourish.

Which of these am I supposed to hate because I'm a Republican?

**jonboy79** · 05-25-2023, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by darb72

Cut taxes. Less government involvement in our lives. Allowed small businesses to flourish.

Which of these am I supposed to hate because I'm a Republican?

He said mean things to people.

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**Laxdad24** · 05-25-2023, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by darb72

Cut taxes. Less government involvement in our lives. Allowed small businesses to flourish.

Which of these am I supposed to hate because I'm a Republican?

Not Republican….Conservative. For you and Greg..I’d say Ultra-Conservative.

You guys voted for Trump the man before he was Pres. So whatever small amount of good he did in office doesn’t matter. My point is how can you support the man. Why would you want him as your leader? He doesn’t have the same values as you. Not by a long shot. He doesn’t value the same things as you. Same ideas as you.

Trump is a Wolf in sheep’s clothing. Why else would he have swore on TV that “ I’m gonna bring Killary to Justice” and never did squat about it ? Same with Obamas birth certificate. Again …this is the same dude who was Besties with Slick Willie! You know …Mr Killary. And was a registered Dem. How can you believe in your hearts that this dude has changed ? I just don’t get it.

I truly do respect yours and Greg’s views and opinions. Don’t always agree with them but respect that you stand for something. That’s why I’m truly confused.

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**Laxdad24** · 05-25-2023, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

The wall. She is pissed Trump didn't get it done, getting a hammer and going out and putting it up himself if necessary. While I can somewhat sympathize given my previous takes on others failing to follow through at least he got it started. Stopping it was about as stupid as one can be but that's who we have, the idiot of the century.

He also didn’t kill Obama Care like he promised. Not even close.

Now he was playing against a stacked deck…but he did promise it coming in knowing what he was against. Just like the wall.

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**Laxdad24** · 05-25-2023, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by blah3

What actual policies of trump were anti conservative? Cutting taxes? Cutting regulation? Securing the border? Energy independence?

Like I posted to Darb. It’s not about the policies. You guys voted for him before the policies. I don’t get voting for the man.

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**jonboy79** · 05-25-2023, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

He also didn’t kill Obama Care like he promised. Not even close.

Now he was playing against a stacked deck…but he did promise it coming in knowing what he was against. Just like the wall.

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He killed the individual mandate, by far the most important part to kill.

That alone has saved me over $20k since that got struck down.

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**Greg** · 05-25-2023, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

Not Republican….Conservative. For you and Greg..I’d say Ultra-Conservative.

You guys voted for Trump the man before he was Pres. So whatever small amount of good he did in office doesn’t matter. My point is how can you support the man. Why would you want him as your leader? He doesn’t have the same values as you. Not by a long shot. He doesn’t value the same things as you. Same ideas as you.

Trump is a Wolf in sheep’s clothing. Why else would he have swore on TV that “ I’m gonna bring Killary to Justice” and never did squat about it ? Same with Obamas birth certificate. Again …this is the same dude who was Besties with Slick Willie! You know …Mr Killary. And was a registered Dem. How can you believe in your hearts that this dude has changed ? I just don’t get it.

I truly do respect yours and Greg’s views and opinions. Don’t always agree with them but respect that you stand for something. That’s why I’m truly confused.

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How could I vote for him? As an American.

I voted for Bush 1 in 1988. He disappointed so I voted libertarian in 92 and 96. Then his son got me in 2000. I didn't vote R again until Trump.

Why you might ask? TO STICK A THUMB INTO THE PROVERBIAL EYE OF THE ESTABLISHMENT!

And you know what? It worked. They cooked up all kinds of lies about him. some you may believe based on these takes.

Is he conservative or libertarian? Nope, but he's the closest thing since Reagan. Since Reagan we have been offered a bunch of milquetoast douche bags.

And sure, he played the political game with the Clintons, etc. Shocking that a NYC businessman would suck up to Dems.

**Greg** · 05-25-2023, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

He also didn’t kill Obama Care like he promised. Not even close.

Now he was playing against a stacked deck…but he did promise it coming in knowing what he was against. Just like the wall.

Nope. The Rs said they would kill as well. McConnell and Ryan both said it, then wouldn't pass the legislation. That is on Ryan and McChinesePuppett. That guy really needs to go. How KY can elect that piece of crap and Rand Paul is beyond me. Paul should be the minority leader.

**Laxdad24** · 05-26-2023, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by Greg

Nope. The Rs said they would kill as well. McConnell and Ryan both said it, then wouldn't pass the legislation. That is on Ryan and McChinesePuppett. That guy really needs to go. How KY can elect that piece of crap and Rand Paul is beyond me. Paul should be the minority leader.

On this we def agree. McConnell is a total tool. Why the people of Kentucky vote him every time is beyond me. I mean Goober from MayBerry would be a better choice at this point.

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**Laxdad24** · 05-26-2023, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Greg

How could I vote for him? As an American.

I voted for Bush 1 in 1988. He disappointed so I voted libertarian in 92 and 96. Then his son got me in 2000. I didn't vote R again until Trump.

Why you might ask? TO STICK A THUMB INTO THE PROVERBIAL EYE OF THE ESTABLISHMENT!

And you know what? It worked. They cooked up all kinds of lies about him. some you may believe based on these takes.

Is he conservative or libertarian? Nope, but he's the closest thing since Reagan. Since Reagan we have been offered a bunch of milquetoast douche bags.

And sure, he played the political game with the Clintons, etc. Shocking that a NYC businessman would suck up to Dems.

Ok. I’ll take you at your word. Still don’t get it.

I think in 2016 Trump won because he was the lesser of 2 evils. Killary was known evil. Trump was unknown.

In 2020 I think the same happened to him. People didn’t vote for Sleepy Joe …they just didn’t vote for Trump.

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**blah3** · 05-26-2023, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

Not Republican….Conservative. For you and Greg..I’d say Ultra-Conservative.

You guys voted for Trump the man before he was Pres. So whatever small amount of good he did in office doesn’t matter. My point is how can you support the man. Why would you want him as your leader? He doesn’t have the same values as you. Not by a long shot. He doesn’t value the same things as you. Same ideas as you.

Trump is a Wolf in sheep’s clothing. Why else would he have swore on TV that “ I’m gonna bring Killary to Justice” and never did squat about it ? Same with Obamas birth certificate. Again …this is the same dude who was Besties with Slick Willie! You know …Mr Killary. And was a registered Dem. How can you believe in your hearts that this dude has changed ? I just don’t get it.

I truly do respect yours and Greg’s views and opinions. Don’t always agree with them but respect that you stand for something. That’s why I’m truly confused.

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It’s really simple. Saw the man for 4 years as President and the country flourished with the policies he supported/implemented.

**blah3** · 05-26-2023, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Greg

Nope. The Rs said they would kill as well. McConnell and Ryan both said it, then wouldn't pass the legislation. That is on Ryan and McChinesePuppett. That guy really needs to go. How KY can elect that piece of crap and Rand Paul is beyond me. Paul should be the minority leader.

Don’t forget it was john fuckin mccain that ended up being the final nail in the coffin of not getting it repealed.