Time to get tough with Lamar

**RustonRifle** · 03-31-2023, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by balbomb

I’m truly flabbergasted that there are a lot of posters that think the next move in negotiations is to up the offer. Not only are you at this point negotiating against yourself, but this goes against the Ravens philosophy in general of building a team.

Yeah, we know by their business sense what was carried out of a 7-11 was what they would call their most successful business deal..

**Super Fan** · 03-31-2023, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by ClericBlackDave

You don't reduce the offer.

You give him a deadline.

We need to know 1 week before the draft if you accept our last best offer. You have until then to find a trade partner (the Colts) and a contract with them, or accept or terms, but one way or the other the offer gets pulled eventually.

My assumption here is that if he stays after this deadline (can't find a contract), he is playing on the NE tag for '23? Do you let Lamar know that you will not match an offer that is "reasonably" higher than ours and with acceptable compensation?

**NOLARavenFAN** · 03-31-2023, 12:53 PM

Ghetto dumb....it's what it is.
It's why we were able to draft hm
They had to know this going in...

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**Terpsfan82** · 03-31-2023, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by NOLARavenFAN

Ghetto dumb....it's what it is.
It's why we were able to draft hm
They had to know this going in...

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A multi-billion dollar corporate entity is supposedly being held hostage by "Ghetto dumb". What does that say about them?

**WrongBaldy** · 03-31-2023, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Terpsfan82

A multi-billion dollar corporate entity is supposedly being held hostage by "Ghetto dumb". What does that say about them?

Ghetto fab

**The Excellector** · 03-31-2023, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by NOLARavenFAN

Ghetto dumb....it's what it is.
It's why we were able to draft hm
They had to know this going in...

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And we put the Non-Exclusive tag on him and scared the league into believing we’d match any offer sheet for him, while hoarding cap space and potential restructures, and doing LESS than nothing in Free Agency, because our only outside move (Nelson Agholor) was an overpay and a net negative. So then if he’s ‘Ghetto dumb’ then we must be the dumbest fucking organization on the planet earth.

**Marvin Humphrey** · 03-31-2023, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Lamar missed 17 games the past 2 seasons? Are you counting preseason? How did you get to 17?

This board has turned into, “if I said it, it is the truth!”

**GOTA** · 03-31-2023, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by balbomb

I’m truly flabbergasted that there are a lot of posters that think the next move in negotiations is to up the offer. Not only are you at this point negotiating against yourself, but this goes against the Ravens philosophy in general of building a team.

You are flabbergasted because you don't want Lamar on the team. Those who want to up the offer want to find a way to get him to sign a deal. They aren't pushing for a fully guaranteed offer. It's more of a line in the sand that hopefully gets him to accept.

I personally wouldn't do it. The leaked offer I heard seemed more than fair. I don't think increasing it to anything other than exactly what Lamar wants gets him to sign. I do though understand the logic from those who think increasing the offer would change his mind

**Marvin Humphrey** · 03-31-2023, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

You are flabbergasted because you don't want Lamar on the team. Those who want to up the offer want to find a way to get him to sign a deal. They aren't pushing for a fully guaranteed offer. It's more of a line in the sand that hopefully gets him to accept.

I personally wouldn't do it. The leaked offer I heard seemed more than fair. I don't think increasing it to anything other than exactly what Lamar wants gets him to sign. I do though understand the logic from those who think increasing the offer would change his mind

Exactly. I see it in my line of work all the time … buyer could be the only show in town, but the seller doesn’t want to sell below a certain price. How do you get them to sell? Increase your offer. Even if it doesn’t meet their valuation it’s a tried and true tactic.

**balbomb** · 03-31-2023, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

And we put the Non-Exclusive tag on him and scared the league into believing we’d match any offer sheet for him, while hoarding cap space and potential restructures, and doing LESS than nothing in Free Agency, because our only outside move (Nelson Agholor) was an overpay and a net negative. So then if he’s ‘Ghetto dumb’ then we must be the dumbest fucking organization on the planet earth.

who are you willing to cut to bridge the non exclusive and exclusive, give me names

**balbomb** · 03-31-2023, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Marvin Humphrey

Exactly. I see it in my line of work all the time … buyer could be the only show in town, but the seller doesn’t want to sell below a certain price. How do you get them to sell? Increase your offer. Even if it doesn’t meet their valuation it’s a tried and true tactic.

I truly hate this analogy, sure the deal will be done with more money, but you are losing value.