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    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    LOL, so ironic, "Lock him up".

    I know for a fact we have forum members who hold clearances and take yearly training about these subjects. I like to see how they do the two step and dance around this one if proven true. Y'all know it's true and Trump doesn't give a sh*t about rules.

    This is so Trump like, blast other people for doing stuff, the turning around and doing the same thing. Over and over again. But of course, as always, he's the victim.

    If you wanna win in 2024, you want this to stick, cause Desantis will win. Trump will lose.

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    Is there a link missing or something?

    Did they need to RAID the man's house? Is any classified information he had (that the national archives wanted, like that's a big deal for them to get RIGHT NOW) more interesting, then, oh, I don't know, Hillary's 33,000 emails wiped off of a unsecured server with all kinds of classified emails on it? And the other reason it was wiped, WHILE UNDER SUBPOENA, also had personal business being conducted to get money from foreigners who wanted favors from the SOS.

    Please, this woman should have gone to prison and she Trump let her off the hook. That won't happen again, and that is why they are desperate now.

    This is a fishing expedition and nothing more.





  2. Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    LOL, so ironic, "Lock him up".

    I know for a fact we have forum members who hold clearances and take yearly training about these subjects. I like to see how they do the two step and dance around this one if proven true. Y'all know it's true and Trump doesn't give a sh*t about rules.

    This is so Trump like, blast other people for doing stuff, the turning around and doing the same thing. Over and over again. But of course, as always, he's the victim.

    If you wanna win in 2024, you want this to stick, cause Desantis will win. Trump will lose.

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    Kind of like when it was disclosed his kids were conducting government business on personal cellphones.

    There is the Presidential Records Act. Why Trumps lawyers were still "negotiating" the return of these documents a year and a half after he left office has me scratching my head. Destruction or removal of documents is clearly a violation of the law IF, in fact, that is what happened. If any of those documents were classified that brings in a whole new circumstance.

    I cant believe that there isnt more to this than an attempt to keep Trump from running again. The politics and optics of this are worse than terrible. The democratic party could f*ck up a wet dream but even they have to realize, as someone here stated, this ushers in a whole new level.





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    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBasedFan View Post
    Agreed on the IRS agents. They have been weaponized before. BUT, there have also been calls by many in congress to increase the numbers of agents for years now to help offset the estimates of underpaying by the nations top earners. The overwhelming percentage of audits are initiated against low income earners and even when successfull yield almost nothing. IIRC I read somewhere how the audit system is set up for auditors to close out cases quickly so all they have time for is the "low hanging fruit" because there just are not enough agents.

    Could not agree more that the current tax system sucks. Ive been a believer in a flat tax or something similar for some time. One campaign promise I wish Trump could have kept was where he said people would be able to complete their taxes on a post card sized form because it would be so simple. The tax code is without a doubt the most glaring example of special interests in our country.
    Doubling the standard deduction went quite far in the correct direction for that claim. It makes sense for so few “normal Americans” to itemize now.
    I’m still quite surprised it didn’t put “liberty tax” and the like to go out of business. It just flows to show how intimidating the “old” system was that few people even attempt to do their own taxes which went from easy to simple. Most people can do it on their phones in under an hour now.


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    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Is there a link missing or something?

    Did they need to RAID the man's house? Is any classified information he had (that the national archives wanted, like that's a big deal for them to get RIGHT NOW) more interesting, then, oh, I don't know, Hillary's 33,000 emails wiped off of a unsecured server with all kinds of classified emails on it? And the other reason it was wiped, WHILE UNDER SUBPOENA, also had personal business being conducted to get money from foreigners who wanted favors from the SOS.

    Please, this woman should have gone to prison and she Trump let her off the hook. That won't happen again, and that is why they are desperate now.

    This is a fishing expedition and nothing more.
    We'll see what they come up with or make up, but you are so right that Hillary should have been locked up but it's obvious to most sane people here that it is a 2 tier justice system and Trump is on the wrong side of it and this is why his supporters defend him. It hasn't been a level playing field for many years.





  5. Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    The very wealthy do not pay nearly the percentage of taxes that middle and lower class Americans do. And many large corporations pay nothing: https://itep.org/55-profitable-corpo...corporate-tax/

    It’s what they have offshore accounts for, it’s why they hire lawyers, did you read any of the Panama papers? There is literally so much money going unpaid toward the country, and it’s all perfectly legal, but it shouldn’t be.

    Banks literally steal our money constantly and then get big government bailouts when they fail.

    Corporations pay absolutely nothing in taxes, and then give CEOs bonuses and salaries that one can’t even fathom.

    Financial crime is literally killing this country and nobody cares cause we’d rather argue about culture war BS.





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    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by ReedInTheWind View Post
    The very wealthy do not pay nearly the percentage of taxes that middle and lower class Americans do. And many large corporations pay nothing: https://itep.org/55-profitable-corpo...corporate-tax/

    It’s what they have offshore accounts for, it’s why they hire lawyers, did you read any of the Panama papers? There is literally so much money going unpaid toward the country, and it’s all perfectly legal, but it shouldn’t be.

    Banks literally steal our money constantly and then get big government bailouts when they fail.

    Corporations pay absolutely nothing in taxes, and then give CEOs bonuses and salaries that one can’t even fathom.

    Financial crime is literally killing this country and nobody cares cause we’d rather argue about culture war BS.
    And this is why we should just do away with the current system completely.

    And corporations don't pay taxes, their customers do. And if you have a 401K or IRA you likely own parts of many of those companies.





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    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Is there a link missing or something?

    Did they need to RAID the man's house? Is any classified information he had (that the national archives wanted, like that's a big deal for them to get RIGHT NOW) more interesting, then, oh, I don't know, Hillary's 33,000 emails wiped off of a unsecured server with all kinds of classified emails on it? And the other reason it was wiped, WHILE UNDER SUBPOENA, also had personal business being conducted to get money from foreigners who wanted favors from the SOS.

    Please, this woman should have gone to prison and she Trump let her off the hook. That won't happen again, and that is why they are desperate now.

    This is a fishing expedition and nothing more.
    There are two tiers of justice in this country and they are 100% politically divided. Democrats use the law and law enforcement to punish their oponents, just like they do in he countries we sanction for human rights abuses.

    How much longer until conservatives are being offered political asylum in whats left of the free world?

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    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBasedFan View Post
    Once again all I can say is lets not condemn until the facts come out.

    Personally, I feel certain that the go ahead to attrempt and get a search warrant, let alone executing it, was approved at the highest levels of government. Certainly the FBI director and I would think Garland had to give a thumbs up. Biden, if he knew, and Garland are both institutionalists. They understand the precedent that this sets. The Biden WH has to know the reaction they are going to get from Trump supporters at all levels.I cannot believe that they would pull something like this unless they had a mountain of affidavits from respected people as well as concrete evidence concerning what as to be material involving national security.

    Even if Murray, Wray, and Garland agreed there was probable cause I find it hard to believe that a judge is going to approve a warrant with out what is almost overwhelming evidence.

    If there is nothing to this heads should and most probably will roll. I could see a whole pile of resignations. Trump will have been right about the third rate country action.

    As for the IRS agents. What is the problem? If you pay what you owe there should be no issues. I just hope they go after that estimated 15B a year that top earners are estimated to be underpaying. Many of those people have been getting a free ride for to long because its to time consuming to audit them.
    Really? Are you fucking kidding me? They concocted a bullshit story and spied on the President. Conducted hearings......tried to impeach Trump. Are you fucking kidding me? And you think this is legit? You live in a delusional world , the rich never pay taxes and their not about to. Those Billionaires you are talking about....they buy and sell the politicians who make the laws. No matter how they slice and dice it you Sir will be paying those taxes......always have......always will. You are delusional.





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    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    The left can not uncross this line, Trump is a former President of the USA........no matter if you like him or not. What documents could he possibly have that would be so important that the FBI would need to raid his home? I understand the law........the law is to protect against espionage. This is a whole new level of TDS. There are so many things happening in our country......the world.......and this is what's important? Even if there are documents he wasn't supposed to have, the government would have to prove intent. If anyone thinks this is about some documents that were taken you are a complete idiot.

    This is nothing more then optics......same with the January 6th hearings. AN attempt to make sure Trump doesn't run in 2024. I have never seen someone rent space is so many peoples heads......... the threat of Trump running for President. Think about the lengths the Democrats have already taken.......House hearings......Senate hearings. Senators flat out lying ( Adam Schifft among others ). An administration ( Barrack Obama ) that actively participated and weaponized law enforcement against a political opponent.So called "whistle blowers", Forging documents to obtain warrants to spy on a sitting President. The complete shit show of a January 6th hearing.

    And were supposed to believe this is on the up and up.......this time it's for real? We have posters on here......telling us " just wait for the facts to come out".....we heard the same things before. They tried to impeach Trump for some bullshit and I am supposed to believe.......this time it's for real? DO you even hear yourself? I am supposed to believe the FBI who actively participated in the mentioned events?

    The FBI is now a absolute fucking joke. The Gestapo police force for the DNC. The once proud institution is now nothing more then the enforcement agency of the new Banana republic.

    We simply don't treat past Presidents this way.........of course unless your name is Trump. It's an absolute embarrassment. "Wait till the facts come out"......ha! I heard that before.

    Trumps voting base is one of the most loyal bases in American politics history. If this doesn't energize liberty loving Americans nothing will.





  10. #34

    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven View Post
    We'll see what they come up with or make up, but you are so right that Hillary should have been locked up but it's obvious to most sane people here that it is a 2 tier justice system and Trump is on the wrong side of it and this is why his supporters defend him. It hasn't been a level playing field for many years.
    Obama and the FBI illegally spied on Donald Trump, and Hillary paid an ex-British spy to concoct a fairy tale to illegally obtain FISA warrents. The FBI did their bidding in both instances.

    Now the FBI raids Trump's home to supposedly see if he has classified information. They are probably raiding his home to recover any evidence he has on what they did to him and worse so they can destroy it, while using it to disqualify him from running for President at the same time.

    This is a very dark time in U.S. History.



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    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by ReedInTheWind View Post
    The very wealthy do not pay nearly the percentage of taxes that middle and lower class Americans do. And many large corporations pay nothing: https://itep.org/55-profitable-corpo...corporate-tax/

    It’s what they have offshore accounts for, it’s why they hire lawyers, did you read any of the Panama papers? There is literally so much money going unpaid toward the country, and it’s all perfectly legal, but it shouldn’t be.

    Banks literally steal our money constantly and then get big government bailouts when they fail.

    Corporations pay absolutely nothing in taxes, and then give CEOs bonuses and salaries that one can’t even fathom.

    Financial crime is literally killing this country and nobody cares cause we’d rather argue about culture war BS.
    Wait, there is so much money unpaid AND its all perfectly legal? Please examine that sentiment of yours. That sentiment is a problem. That sentiment means that the money they legally earned should somehow be yours after laundering it through the govt. THAT sentiment is socialist.





  12. #36

    Re: Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI

    Trump being raided for suspicion of mishandling classified information, meanwhile this:

    https://conservativebrief.com/obama-hunter-64956/

    White House actively interfering in an investigation into Hunter Biden and the Obama White admin.

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