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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beerracuda View Post
    Stay asleep. If you can't clearly see everything that's happening by now, you never will. Frankly, I'm tired of trying to wake up people like you, while the country gets destroyed from within. You'll never learn, and you'll obviously never take a hint by looking at history and how these things are done, with the before mentioned Venezuela being an excellent example.


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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Hmmmmmm So let me get this straight? Inflation all time high......gas prices have been at an all time high. STILL higher then pre pandemic levels. Crime up, With inflation the new normal "minimum wage" was wiped out and is basically back to the same value it was.....that didn't last long did it? I predict in a year or two people will be clamoring that we need a "living wage" again. Biden has the worst approval ratings in God only knows how long.....and yet.....YET! the OP say's everything is great!

    Trump blaming everyone else? Biden blame's inflation on Putin......no?

    Infrastructure bills? Never ever move the economy needle. Didn't when Obama spent a trillion on those "shovel ready" jobs. What Biden and the Democrats just did was to put over 700 billion in to the economy to float it. Same thing Obama did. It's an attempt to save the midterms. To fend off the effects of inflation. They simply took their credit card and swiped it. The so called climate change industry wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the American tax payer. It's been a scam from the very beginning. No I am not a climate change denier. No, the climate has absolutely changed......I just don't think we can spend trillions of dollars and somehow manipulate mother nature.....call me crazy!





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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    "Your children’s children will live under communism, You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright; but we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have Communism. We will not have to fight you; We will so weaken your economy, until you will fall like overripe fruit into our hands." "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

    Remember, socialism leads to Communism. So, how do you create a Socialistic State?

    There are 8 levels of control; read the following recipe:

    1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people.

    2) Poverty – Increase the poverty level as high as possible. Poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them.

    3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

    4) Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

    5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect (food, housing, income) of their lives because that will make them fully dependent on the government.

    6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to and take control of what children learn in school.

    7) Religion – Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools because the people need to believe in ONLY the government knowing what is best for the people.

    8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. Eliminate the middle class This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with the support of the poor.
    Just playing devil's advocate:

    How democracies turn into Dictatorships/Authoritarian Rule:

    1) Political polarization and radicalization - where the competing political sides no longer want to cooperate with one another, allowing violent or extremist groups to take over politics instead

    2) Dissatisfied Elites - people in important positions in society such as political leadership, business, finance, religion, or the military feel that the democratic system no longer “works” for them; the system is at odds with their financial or political interests

    3) Perverting Elections - baseless fraud claims; opaque financing, and manipulation of electoral rules have undercut faith in democratic balloting

    4) Attacking Media Freedom - Independent media have suffered from attacks on journalists

    5) Undermining the Rule of Law - Politicians and governments have weekend judicial independence and sough impunity for corruption

    6) Discrimination and Mistreatment of Migrants - Marginalized communities face discrimination in a variety of areas, from political participation to asylum rights





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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    Just playing devil's advocate:

    How democracies turn into Dictatorships/Authoritarian Rule:

    1) Political polarization and radicalization - where the competing political sides no longer want to cooperate with one another, allowing violent or extremist groups to take over politics instead

    2) Dissatisfied Elites - people in important positions in society such as political leadership, business, finance, religion, or the military feel that the democratic system no longer “works” for them; the system is at odds with their financial or political interests

    3) Perverting Elections - baseless fraud claims; opaque financing, and manipulation of electoral rules have undercut faith in democratic balloting

    4) Attacking Media Freedom - Independent media have suffered from attacks on journalists

    5) Undermining the Rule of Law - Politicians and governments have weekend judicial independence and sough impunity for corruption

    6) Discrimination and Mistreatment of Migrants - Marginalized communities face discrimination in a variety of areas, from political participation to asylum rights
    Ive been trying to decipher this and i just cant. Is this supposed to be what maga gop is doing? Is this an attempt at modern take on what NC posted?
    Im not even sure how these things are supposed to lead to more govt control.





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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    Just playing devil's advocate:

    How democracies turn into Dictatorships/Authoritarian Rule:

    1) Political polarization and radicalization - where the competing political sides no longer want to cooperate with one another, allowing violent or extremist groups to take over politics instead

    2) Dissatisfied Elites - people in important positions in society such as political leadership, business, finance, religion, or the military feel that the democratic system no longer “works” for them; the system is at odds with their financial or political interests

    3) Perverting Elections - baseless fraud claims; opaque financing, and manipulation of electoral rules have undercut faith in democratic balloting

    4) Attacking Media Freedom - Independent media have suffered from attacks on journalists

    5) Undermining the Rule of Law - Politicians and governments have weekend judicial independence and sough impunity for corruption

    6) Discrimination and Mistreatment of Migrants - Marginalized communities face discrimination in a variety of areas, from political participation to asylum rights
    Is this real or a joke? I can't tell.

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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by blah3 View Post
    So Im curious as to what you believe the difference between maga gop policies and old school gop policies are?
    For me, the word "policies" is like the get out of jail for free card for those folks who know deep inside that some of this crap and people are bat sh*t crazy. So they fall back on, oh we like the policies. It is cover so that one doesn't have to admit that some of these MAGA folks/leaders are clowns (Trump, Alex Jones, the pillow guy, MTG, Bobert, Gaetz, Hershel Walker, Rudy G, Bannon, Flynn, and etc)

    To answer your question though, sorry for the rant...

    The MAGA folks are redefining what it means to be a conservative. The old school folks are more intellectual, financially tight, vanilla not flamboyant, by the book not going outside of legal lines and norms, country before party.

    The MAGA folks are opposite of everything above. Trumps flaws as a person in terms of morals, legality, and scruples have been infused into what it means to be republican and conservative. To be clear, when i say MAGA folks, im talking about the leaders who are out front...NOT THE FOLLOWERS, the regular people.

    Hell, a rock-ribbed conservative with a 95% voting percentage with Trump; Liz Chaney; is now a RINO. Why, because she isn't loyal. So now, loyalty is the most important trait to be considered a conservative. That is the difference





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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    For me, the word "policies" is like the get out of jail for free card for those folks who know deep inside that some of this crap and people are bat sh*t crazy. So they fall back on, oh we like the policies. It is cover so that one doesn't have to admit that some of these MAGA folks/leaders are clowns (Trump, Alex Jones, the pillow guy, MTG, Bobert, Gaetz, Hershel Walker, Rudy G, Bannon, Flynn, and etc)

    To answer your question though, sorry for the rant...

    The MAGA folks are redefining what it means to be a conservative. The old school folks are more intellectual, financially tight, vanilla not flamboyant, by the book not going outside of legal lines and norms, country before party.

    The MAGA folks are opposite of everything above. Trumps flaws as a person in terms of morals, legality, and scruples have been infused into what it means to be republican and conservative. To be clear, when i say MAGA folks, im talking about the leaders who are out front...NOT THE FOLLOWERS, the regular people.

    Hell, a rock-ribbed conservative with a 95% voting percentage with Trump; Liz Chaney; is now a RINO. Why, because she isn't loyal. So now, loyalty is the most important trait to be considered a conservative. That is the difference
    Seems you are basically just talking about personality. So basically maga does stuff gop like, but they dont like the style in which they did it?
    Its like policy doesnt seem to matter to you. I would say policy matters mire to gop ers tham dems. Dems seem to care about feelings more. That could be why uou see the divide





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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERBLOOD View Post
    Lol. Quite a nice fairy tale right there. The MAGA wing of the party is the majority of the GOP.

    If you need proof, look at Trump's MAGA endorrsements in the Primaries.

    Seems like you are still drinking the corporate media kool-aid.

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    Don't count your chickens just yet. They have to win General Election first. One poster, who probably agrees with most of your points of view, is already thinking the GOP won't win the Senate. Why? Because of the clowns that Trump endorsed. Dr. OZ, Mr. Walker, Masters in AZ to name few.

    The problem is that Trump cares more about convincing the masses he didn't lose than winning elections. That's why there are two democratic Senators in Georgia. And probably why the senate will be held by the dems.





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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    For me, the word "policies" is like the get out of jail for free card for those folks who know deep inside that some of this crap and people are bat sh*t crazy. So they fall back on, oh we like the policies. It is cover so that one doesn't have to admit that some of these MAGA folks/leaders are clowns (Trump, Alex Jones, the pillow guy, MTG, Bobert, Gaetz, Hershel Walker, Rudy G, Bannon, Flynn, and etc)

    To answer your question though, sorry for the rant...

    The MAGA folks are redefining what it means to be a conservative. The old school folks are more intellectual, financially tight, vanilla not flamboyant, by the book not going outside of legal lines and norms, country before party.

    The MAGA folks are opposite of everything above. Trumps flaws as a person in terms of morals, legality, and scruples have been infused into what it means to be republican and conservative. To be clear, when i say MAGA folks, im talking about the leaders who are out front...NOT THE FOLLOWERS, the regular people.

    Hell, a rock-ribbed conservative with a 95% voting percentage with Trump; Liz Chaney; is now a RINO. Why, because she isn't loyal. So now, loyalty is the most important trait to be considered a conservative. That is the difference
    You have absolutely no clue what the GOP is today or Trump's voter base. First off no one in the Republican party would claim Alex Jones as their own......You couldn't be any more off if you outright tried. As you see most of those commenting can not take you serious......why? Because you are so off base. See here's the thing, how can you say these things with a straight face when you have Biden as the current President? You and other Democrats do exactly what you accuse others of doing. Did you not forget who the Vice President was when they concocted the Russia/collusion story on Trump? Spied on a political opponent? he words of your President......."come on man!

    If one of the Trump boys done what Hunter Biden has done there would be an outcry like never before. Also, if Trump was President and we had the exact same current economic situation, the same foreign policy situation the Democrats would be having another swing at impeaching Trump. Your post drip with hypocrisy.





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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    For me, the word "policies" is like the get out of jail for free card for those folks who know deep inside that some of this crap and people are bat sh*t crazy. So they fall back on, oh we like the policies. It is cover so that one doesn't have to admit that some of these MAGA folks/leaders are clowns (Trump, Alex Jones, the pillow guy, MTG, Bobert, Gaetz, Hershel Walker, Rudy G, Bannon, Flynn, and etc)

    To answer your question though, sorry for the rant...

    The MAGA folks are redefining what it means to be a conservative. The old school folks are more intellectual, financially tight, vanilla not flamboyant, by the book not going outside of legal lines and norms, country before party.

    The MAGA folks are opposite of everything above. Trumps flaws as a person in terms of morals, legality, and scruples have been infused into what it means to be republican and conservative. To be clear, when i say MAGA folks, im talking about the leaders who are out front...NOT THE FOLLOWERS, the regular people.

    Hell, a rock-ribbed conservative with a 95% voting percentage with Trump; Liz Chaney; is now a RINO. Why, because she isn't loyal. So now, loyalty is the most important trait to be considered a conservative. That is the difference
    Lol. Are you just trolling at this point? You clearly have no clue what the MAGA movement is about or even what the establishment GOP is about.

    Stop watching CNNMSNBC and reading Salon and Buzzfeed.

    Seriously, this is so far off base there isn't even an area to debate. The movement isnt about Trump. He started it, but its much bigger than him and it's all about policies.

    For me, when someone puts something out here as ridiculous as this, it's because they don't have the ability to engage in intellectual debate, and they are hopelessly brainwashed by the MSM. These are the rants of someone with TDS. Someone obsessed with hating Trump.

    And Liz Cheney is a bitter lying POS, who is the definition of a Neocon RINO.



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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    For me, the word "policies" is like the get out of jail for free card for those folks who know deep inside that some of this crap and people are bat sh*t crazy. So they fall back on, oh we like the policies. It is cover so that one doesn't have to admit that some of these MAGA folks/leaders are clowns (Trump, Alex Jones, the pillow guy, MTG, Bobert, Gaetz, Hershel Walker, Rudy G, Bannon, Flynn, and etc)

    To answer your question though, sorry for the rant...

    The MAGA folks are redefining what it means to be a conservative. The old school folks are more intellectual, financially tight, vanilla not flamboyant, by the book not going outside of legal lines and norms, country before party.

    The MAGA folks are opposite of everything above. Trumps flaws as a person in terms of morals, legality, and scruples have been infused into what it means to be republican and conservative. To be clear, when i say MAGA folks, im talking about the leaders who are out front...NOT THE FOLLOWERS, the regular people.

    Hell, a rock-ribbed conservative with a 95% voting percentage with Trump; Liz Chaney; is now a RINO. Why, because she isn't loyal. So now, loyalty is the most important trait to be considered a conservative. That is the difference
    Did you know Liz Cheney's husband is partner at the law firm representing Hunter Biden?





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    Re: Hmmm...maybe the Senate can be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    For me, the word "policies" is like the get out of jail for free card for those folks who know deep inside that some of this crap and people are bat sh*t crazy. So they fall back on, oh we like the policies. It is cover so that one doesn't have to admit that some of these MAGA folks/leaders are clowns (Trump, Alex Jones, the pillow guy, MTG, Bobert, Gaetz, Hershel Walker, Rudy G, Bannon, Flynn, and etc)

    To answer your question though, sorry for the rant...

    The MAGA folks are redefining what it means to be a conservative. The old school folks are more intellectual, financially tight, vanilla not flamboyant, by the book not going outside of legal lines and norms, country before party.

    The MAGA folks are opposite of everything above. Trumps flaws as a person in terms of morals, legality, and scruples have been infused into what it means to be republican and conservative. To be clear, when i say MAGA folks, im talking about the leaders who are out front...NOT THE FOLLOWERS, the regular people.

    Hell, a rock-ribbed conservative with a 95% voting percentage with Trump; Liz Chaney; is now a RINO. Why, because she isn't loyal. So now, loyalty is the most important trait to be considered a conservative. That is the difference
    LOL! Rock-ribbed conservative. She, like papa and W and the whole old-school GOP crowd are neo-cons.





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