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Thread: David Ojabo holding out
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08-03-2022, 04:11 PM #145
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08-03-2022, 05:29 PM #146Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: David Ojabo holding out
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Re: David Ojabo holding out
I do not believe there has ever been a player in the history of the NFL draft who refused to sign and re-entered the draft. That's a baseball thing. Bo Jackson and John Elway played chicken with threats but in the end played.
"That's what."
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08-03-2022, 06:19 PM #149
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Re: David Ojabo holding out
Interesting thought. Tried checking, not much, hit a lot of gobbly-gook with fantasy/mock/redrafting years later
But did find some from the 80s who chose CFL or USFL
And did find that if a player is undrafted, he cannot re-enter the draft next year (against the rules) cr Lael Collins 2015
Anyway 3 I found in addition to Bo already mentioned
1979 Tom Cousineau Bills chose to sign CFL
1980 Bruce Clark Packers CFL for 2 years then signed with Saints
1983 Jim Kelly Bills went to the USFL for 2 years
Bunch of players refused to report to drafting team and got traded like Accorsi who got sh*t on by Irsayat one point of my life I was exactly Pi years old
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08-03-2022, 08:46 PM #151Pro Bowl Poster
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08-04-2022, 06:01 PM #152Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: David Ojabo holding out
Ojabo signed earlier today.
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08-04-2022, 07:04 PM #153
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Re: David Ojabo holding out
Thanks for jogging a memory that was "busy" with other activities in 1986. (partying, girls, grad school, alll in an effort to recover from the loss of my beloved Colts while living with three Browns fans who fed me shit sandwiches every chance they had on the topic).
You sent me down a rabbit hole, where I found a story I never heard about while Bo refused to sign with Tampa Bay. The short version was that while Bo was still at Auburn, contemplating coming out bc he was a clear #1 overall pick, Bucs owner Culverhouse flew him out on a private plane for a visit and claimed it was cleared, it wasn't, and NCAA violation. So Bo refused to sign.
I'm not sure the logic of this story holds up, but here it is.
Thanks for the research. Good stuff.
I do recall that the USFL was outbidding NFL teams in that era, which may explain Kelly."That's what."
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08-05-2022, 08:35 AM #155Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: David Ojabo holding out
Has anyone mentioned Raghib "Rocket" Ismail? The Raiders actually drafted him in 1991 in the 4th round after they already knew he was signing in the CFL to play with the Toronto Argonauts. After playing in the CFL for 2 years, he returned to the NFL where the Raiders still retained his rights.
Interesting, because my understanding now is that if a player doesn't sign by next years draft you lose your rights to them.
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Re: David Ojabo holding out
That is my understanding also. James Hurst was burnt because as undrafted he could not re-enter the draft. Seems like an Anti-trust concession to allow a draftee to refuse to sign and re-enter. “Yes senator, we are not a monopoly that absolutely restricts someone from working elsewhere”.
One thing this has got me thinking about is a possible CBA agreement to the effect that a team who knowingly drafts an injured player gets an extra year IF the player spends the first year completely on IR.
Would allow an injured player full medical/nutritional/facility access, and not leave someone having to get healthy at their own expense (James Hurst)
Would also stop a player rushed back in order to get some return on investment in the 1st of 4 years. I know details to work out like how and when is signing bonus paid especially if a high draft pick, but I think this would have a player drafted closer to his real uninjured slot if the drafting team is not “penalized” a year’s playing time like the Ravens were with Poindexter.
Basically a player gets a one year minimum payday, with a guaranteed escrowed signing bonus payable at the start of the next fiscal year when his 4 active years begin. Signing bonus is guaranteed but does not start becoming cap charges while the player is on IR.at one point of my life I was exactly Pi years old
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