Joe Hortiz interviewed for Giants GM job

**HotInHere** · 01-18-2022, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

Any word on when the Giants are going to make their decision? I hope they don't drag it out.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/1/1...tiz-ryan-poles

The TL/DR version is they have interviewed:
Joe Schoen, Buffalo Bills assistant GM
Joe Hortiz, Baltimore Ravens director of player personnel
Adrian Wilson, Arizona Cardinals vice president of pro personnel
Quentin Harris, Cardinals vice president of player personnel
Ryan Poles, Kansas City Chiefs executive director of player personnel
Monti Ossenfort, Tennessee Titans director of player personnel
Ryan Cowden, Titans vice president of player personnel

They are interviewing two guys from the Niners today. They should have their finalists back for face to face interviews this week.

Also, Hortiz is expected to interview with the Bears. Looks like the Bears and Giants are competing for some of the same guys, so they may need to move quickly if they don't want to get sniped.

**HotInHere** · 01-18-2022, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Desert Raven

Legendary or not, at the moment they’re irrelevant. The GM will be tasked with returning them to relevancy, and right off the bat will need a HC and QB to hitch his wagon to, and the Giants don’t have either one.

The HC thing is actually good. It would be a bad GM job if they already had a HC established.

The QB is a problem, but they have a crapload of draft capital. Probably will be a rebuilding year next year no matter what, as they shed some wasted cap dollars. So they should still be high enough to draft a QB in '23 if they don't like any of the guys in this year's draft. They also had more games missed to injury than any other team this year, so they should have a much better supporting cast next year, no matter who the QB is. Plus they play in a weak division that has only one real franchise QB in it.

I don't think it's a bad job at all.

**QtR Nevermore** · 01-18-2022, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by HotInHere

Also, Hortiz is expected to interview with the Bears. Looks like the Bears and Giants are competing for some of the same guys, so they may need to move quickly if they don't want to get sniped.

The Raiders have a GM vacancy too. I've got a feeling Hortiz will get one of those jobs. He comes over as smart and impressive and the Ravens Front Office has a good reputation.

**moose10101** · 01-18-2022, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by HotInHere

The HC thing is actually good. It would be a bad GM job if they already had a HC established.

The QB is a problem, but they have a crapload of draft capital. Probably will be a rebuilding year next year no matter what, as they shed some wasted cap dollars. So they should still be high enough to draft a QB in '23 if they don't like any of the guys in this year's draft. They also had more games missed to injury than any other team this year, so they should have a much better supporting cast next year, no matter who the QB is. Plus they play in a weak division that has only one real franchise QB in it.

I don't think it's a bad job at all.

They should sign Fitz for a year.

**stevez51** · 01-19-2022, 10:27 AM

They've called back Schoen and Poles for 2nd interviews.

**Dirt1** · 01-19-2022, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by stevez51

They've called back Schoen and Poles for 2nd interviews.

Yeah, it looks like Hortiz is out of the running for the Giants GM job. Lucky for him, there are a number of other openings.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...g-m-interview/

**Shas** · 01-19-2022, 02:59 PM

I had a dream the Ravens brought Daniel Jeremiah back into the front office.

Mike Mayock can have Jeremiah's current job.

**sailorsam** · 01-19-2022, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

It's the Giants. They are one of the legendary organizations in sports. Fans forget that the Giants have the 2nd most NFL titles after the Packers and played in more NFL title games than any other franchise. This was team around for around 45 years before Super Bowl I. The owner is one of the most influential in the NFL and doesn't interfere. If anything he's crushed by how poorly his team has been since their last Super Bowl win. That's why for the very first time they are hiring GM with no ties to the Giants. They aren't even interviewing anyone for this job who had a relationship with the Giants. I just can't seen anyone being offered the Giants job turning it down. It's going to be a tremendous job for a GM. I don't think it will be as easy for the head coach but there isn't a better GM opening in the league.

as I recall, when they were a down team in the late 70s, they hired former Baltimore Colts official George Young, who brought in Ernie Accorsi. that led to the Parcells era (two SB wins as I recall)

**Ravenswintitle** · 01-19-2022, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Shas

I had a dream the Ravens brought Daniel Jeremiah back into the front office.

Mike Mayock can have Jeremiah's current job.

Shas you need a dream upgrade

**Shas** · 01-19-2022, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Shas you need a dream upgrade

I have many strange dreams, some even that are not PG.

Actually, off topic, but I am a big podcast listener. Will generally fall asleep listening to them. They tend to keep playing consecutively, and I've discovered that the content of the podcast will often steer my dreaming.

It's possible my phone rolled over to a Ravens podcast.

**WNCRavensFan** · 01-19-2022, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by stevez51

They've called back Schoen and Poles for 2nd interviews.

So whoever loses the Buffalo / KC game gets to be a Giant

either that or New York waits more

**GOTA** · 01-19-2022, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by sailorsam

as I recall, when they were a down team in the late 70s, they hired former Baltimore Colts official George Young, who brought in Ernie Accorsi. that led to the Parcells era (two SB wins as I recall)

You're right. The NFL actually pushed George Young on the Giants and it was a brilliant move. Wellington and Jack Mara owned the Giants. Jack ran the football operations and Wellington ran the business. Jack died young and his son Tim took over. Wellington and his nephew Tim were constantly at odds. It got so bad that Pete Rozelle and the NFL stepped in and forced them to hire George Young who had come from Baltimore to Miami with Don Shula.

The NFL was worried that their New York team was falling apart and George Young was the man to fix it. Young believed drafting tough an physical players. He drafted Phil Simms, Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Joe Morris, Leonard Marshall and Mark Bavaro. He gave his coach Bill Parcells, a ton of leash. Young saved the Giants and that's why he's a Hall of Fame executive.

Ernie Accorsi had worked with George Young in Baltimore. In the 2000's the Giants hired Accorsi to become their GM and I'm sure that George Young connection had a lot to do with it.