School Shootings

**bandc** · 12-01-2021, 02:58 AM

Why does America have so many more school shootings than the rest of the world? Is there anything we can do to end this? I can't imagine how the parents of those three kids who lost their lives must feel.

Why has there been no substantive action taken? Are we ok with this as a country?

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**iceman43** · 12-01-2021, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by bandc

Why does America have so many more school shootings than the rest of the world? Is there anything we can do to end this? I can't imagine how the parents of those three kids who lost their lives must feel.

Why has there been no substantive action taken? Are we ok with this as a country?

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I believe it is our culture/mentality. Switzerland has more freedom with guns than we do but their peoples mentality is totally different

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**BustOfPallas** · 12-01-2021, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by bandc

Why does America have so many more school shootings than the rest of the world? Is there anything we can do to end this? I can't imagine how the parents of those three kids who lost their lives must feel.

Why has there been no substantive action taken? Are we ok with this as a country?

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Waukesha you talkin' about Willis?

I thought it was, you know, the bullying.

**Ortizer** · 12-01-2021, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by bandc

Why does America have so many more school shootings than the rest of the world? Is there anything we can do to end this? I can't imagine how the parents of those three kids who lost their lives must feel.

Why has there been no substantive action taken? Are we ok with this as a country?

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Mental health?

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**bandc** · 12-01-2021, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ortizer

Mental health?

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Do you think the state of our country leads to worse mental health outcomes over other countries?

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**bandc** · 12-01-2021, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by iceman43

I believe it is our culture/mentality. Switzerland has more freedom with guns than we do but their peoples mentality is totally different

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What about the mentality is different? Explain further if you could

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**iceman43** · 12-01-2021, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by bandc

What about the mentality is different? Explain further if you could

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It's a do what we want no one can tell us what to do everything is our right we are very arrogant and selfish as Americans

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**bandc** · 12-01-2021, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by iceman43

It's a do what we want no one can tell us what to do everything is our right we are very arrogant and selfish as Americans

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It's a shame that not even kids dying in school in droves changes this attitude. I've also never understood the whole "good guy with a gun line."
If you've ever had the displeasure of seeing a school shooting video, you'd know that by the time anyone "good" could get to a gun, multiple kids are already dead.

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**NCRAVEN** · 12-01-2021, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by bandc

Why does America have so many more school shootings than the rest of the world? Is there anything we can do to end this? I can't imagine how the parents of those three kids who lost their lives must feel.

Why has there been no substantive action taken? Are we ok with this as a country?

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No, we are not okay with this.

What type of substantive action would you like to be done?

I have my thoughts, but I'd be curious to see what yours are.

**bandc** · 12-01-2021, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

No, we are not okay with this.

What type of substantive action would you like to be done?

I have my thoughts, but I'd be curious to see what yours are.

I'm not gonna try and act like I have the answers. It seems to me like this is a situation where the cats been let out of the bag. I don't know how to reverse this countries attitude to guns.

I feel like there are common sense gun reforms that have been sitting around for awhile but nothing seems to be getting done.

I've brought up the idea of fingerprint locking guns, and the pushback was that it's unfair to put the cost on gun manufacturers/gun buyers. That response was foolishness to me. You're naively saying that gun costs are more important than children's lives. We've pushed seatbelt and airbag costs onto the car manufacturer/buyer, and there's no reason the same shouldn't be done with guns

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**NCRAVEN** · 12-01-2021, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by bandc

I'm not gonna try and act like I have the answers. It seems to me like this is a situation where the cats been let out of the bag. I don't know how to reverse this countries attitude to guns.

I feel like there are common sense gun reforms that have been sitting around for awhile but nothing seems to be getting done.

I've brought up the idea of fingerprint locking guns, and the pushback was that it's unfair to put the cost on gun manufacturers/gun buyers. That response was foolishness to me. You're naively saying that gun costs are more important than children's lives. We've pushed seatbelt and airbag costs onto the car manufacturer/buyer, and there's no reason the same shouldn't be done with guns

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Well, I'm not for forcing people to wear seatbelts, so I don't see the correlation there.

However, there are trigger locks, storage safes etc. All things you can do without some astronomical cost of finger print safety.

You're trying to fix the symptom when you need to go deeper and fix the cause, which are many such as cultural, single parents etc.

**blah3** · 12-01-2021, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by bandc

I'm not gonna try and act like I have the answers. It seems to me like this is a situation where the cats been let out of the bag. I don't know how to reverse this countries attitude to guns.

I feel like there are common sense gun reforms that have been sitting around for awhile but nothing seems to be getting done.

I've brought up the idea of fingerprint locking guns, and the pushback was that it's unfair to put the cost on gun manufacturers/gun buyers. That response was foolishness to me. You're naively saying that gun costs are more important than children's lives. We've pushed seatbelt and airbag costs onto the car manufacturer/buyer, and there's no reason the same shouldn't be done with guns

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So what laws, ‘common sense’ or otherwise do you think is going to stop shooters? Shooters who are already not deterred by laws against murder, attempted murder, aggravated assault etc???