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10-12-2021, 03:51 PM #169Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Bradley Beal dropping truth bombs
And yet, people knew about it.
Heres an example of a place it was disclosed. Though I am sure it wont be good enough
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2814-7
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Re: Bradley Beal dropping truth bombs
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10-12-2021, 08:14 PM #172
Re: Bradley Beal dropping truth bombs
I was addressing the idea that there is federal law that requires disclosures on drugs. I know this doesn't necessarily qualify.
I also understand they aren't going to advertise it and I also get their desire to squelch the news.
The real problem is social media and most of the news orgs in this country will comply with big pharma to get those ad dollars and also keep the left from jumping on them.
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10-13-2021, 07:32 AM #173Hall Of Fame Poster
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10-13-2021, 07:33 AM #174Hall Of Fame Poster
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10-13-2021, 09:58 PM #176Veteran Poster
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I doubt anyone in this conversation is significantly more pro-life than I am, and I get the annoyance. That said, medical ethics has come a long way. Leaving abortion aside, there were a lot of things that were done in the past that we don't want to think about. African-Americans remember some rather regrettable tests that they were a part of, and not as knowing volunteers.
From a Christian perspective, the larger problem is sin and it is pervasive. Methodists don't quite say it this way but the Calvinists speak of "total depravity", referring to the fact that everything we do is tainted.
Anyway, from my vantage point, the existing fetal cell lines are not the spot I would choose to fight the pro-life battle from. No new lives are being taken, and it is unclear to the general population what the real message is. By opposing vaccines it makes it appear that we actually don't want to save lives after all.
btw - did you ever see the movie about the British aboltionist movement called "Amazing Grace"?
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10-13-2021, 10:16 PM #177
Re: Bradley Beal dropping truth bombs
William Wilberforce is who you are referencing in regard to the movie, a devout Christian who learned of Parliament's ending of slave trading in the Empire on his death bed which he had fought for a very long time. Parliament had already banned slavery in Britain.
I get you don't take issue with the use of these cells but some of us do. I don't measure a man of his commitment to Jesus on an issue like this, but by his heart.
I would take all of this vaccine pushing (no mandates) with much less skepticism if they counted natural immunity as vaccinated. Natural immunity is better, stronger, longer lasting, and once you have according to one study you are 27 TIMES (not percent, times) more likely to have adverse side effects from the vaccine. I have natural immunity and you aren't jabbing me with that stuff for no other reason than to line big pharma's pockets. Biden can shove that up Fauci's butt sideways.
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10-14-2021, 08:18 AM #178Veteran Poster
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Re: Bradley Beal dropping truth bombs
Definitely don't want to get into a who's more pro-life contest, so lets just say if you're as pro-life as I am (or vice versa) awesome, there are few who are THAT pro-life.
In some ways they have in some ways they haven't. I get the "what's done is done" attitude, and I'm all for medical testing, but I just have a problem with testing things on cells from an aborted baby(whether directly or indirectly cause they're cloned).
That just doesn't sit right with me, regardless of what a group of people get together and say. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't feel/think that I am (obviously)
See, that's the problem "no new lives are being taken", that doesn't make what's done in the past okay cause it's in the past. If I go kill someone and get arrested I can't say to the judge "don't put me in jail, that's in the past"
Also, I'm not opposing vaccines, I'm opposing THIS vaccine for several reasons. And I think people should have the right to object and not taken it based on their pro/life religious beliefs.
No, I'm familiar with it but I haven't seen it. I want to though.
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10-14-2021, 03:46 PM #180
Re: Bradley Beal dropping truth bombs
Medical has come a long way but the ethics...... why are you so sure about that? There's been black markets in the past for baby parts and maybe still so but to just blindly believe science hasn't used none of this and they're only going on a cell line from 1973 sounds a little farfetched. Not saying it's not true cuz I don't know but all the lies we've been fed gives me pause and like Greg said why is nobody even testing for natural immunity and just mandating a jab. Also you have fallen into the trap of believing people being against mandates as being opposed/anti vax.
I don't know a lot but I know a little
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