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This from Nancy Pelosi - The President is to be commended for the clarity of purpose of his statement on Afghanistan and his action. The Taliban must know the world is watching its actions. We are concerned about reports regarding the Taliban’s brutal treatment of all Afghans, especially women and girls.
12:04 PM · Aug 15, 2021
Yet she's not concerned about the women and girls treatment from the cartels at the southern border. UFB
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08-15-2021, 07:30 PM #14Hall Of Fame Poster
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08-15-2021, 07:55 PM #16Hall Of Fame Poster
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This is 100% on Biden. Inflation is 100% on Biden. Southern border invasion 100% on Biden. Crime spike is 100% on Biden.
It amazes me that people knowingly vote for this crap and then try to blame someone else when it happens. Orange man bad, so let's just burn it all down.
Seriously, what did people expect was going to happen? Defunding and demoralizing the police would make cities safer? Raising taxes, increasing regulations, and killing the pipeline would help the economy? Electing the same administration that bungled the Iraq withdrawal would have a different ending in Afghanistan? Opening up the borders to 600k immigrants during a pandemic would be a good idea, and keep Americans safe? Unbelievable.
This is mostly what the Democrats campaigned on. Well congratulations, you got what you asked for. Trump is out, and the country is in a tailspin. Our future generations thank you.
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Not to mention all the drugs and MS13 gang members pouring into this country and the CRT and gender BS being taught in many schools around this country, especially young kids. Amazing only a few parents are complaining. Many are probably just clueless. Borderline child abuse. So sad.
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08-15-2021, 10:07 PM #18Hall Of Fame Poster
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A lot of men fought and died over there.
The idea that we "had" the Taliban and could have eliminated them is stupid. It's fucking stupid.
It's nonsense.
We had control of Kabul. There was a state of equilibrium We had an airbase and air support and cooperation of a government that was of course filled with corrupt 2 timing lackeys BUT... the fundamentalist lunatic Taliban were NOT in control...
My best friend in high school was a thoracic surgeon based at Bagram. He made it out and onto his next life in Utah. He texted me about 100 days before he got out and said a mortar hit about 100 yards from his tent. That was like 10 years ago.
Joe Biden is a total fuckwit moron and this catastrophic collapse is ALL ON HIM!!!!
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08-15-2021, 10:17 PM #19
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This is Bush's f*** up too. He needed to sell the idea that we would have to be in for the long haul. It probably would have been accepted if he lessened the military presence in Germany and Japan and into Afghanistan. And Afghanistan would have been an easier sell if he hadn't stupidly gotten us into Iraq.
When people start yapping on about experts in the government I laugh and roll my eyes. The foreign policy experts are idiots. Trump and his ego and coarse talk and bravado might rub people the wrong way but he is the best foreign policy president since Reagan.
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08-15-2021, 10:23 PM #20
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I agree bush had a part in this as well we had 2 wars going on the presence in Germany and Japan wasn't the problem the previous countries were actually supplementing us and freeing up the military members stationed there to go down range saving military in mobilizing cost. And it actually kept Russia still at bay in Europe for the most part. As they were want us to make a mistake and mess with them first so they could respond if you follow they would do things like pull right near the border of Poland provoking us if you follow
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08-15-2021, 10:24 PM #21
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08-15-2021, 10:41 PM #22Hall Of Fame Poster
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I will admit 100% I have no idea what the situation on the ground was. I will also admit I have little idea of the geopolitics/religious politics of the Afghanistan. I did lose a family member there. His peers/friends went on to kill Osama Bin Laden and we were always sure he would be one of them. He probably would have been one of them had it not been for that lucky RPG that led to that Mark Walbherg movie. The Taliban are all the rednecks outside of the cities. They never went away. There was never any "killing" them. I think if we could have been there another 100 years, modernity would have overtaken the tribal and religious fundamentalists that were always there. maybe we should let the Chinese deal with is issue. Maybe they won't fool around with it like us. I don't know. I DO know. This flat footed debacle is all on Biden.
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08-15-2021, 10:47 PM #23
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As I said man I think we should have stayed there just like we did Germany Italy and Japan over time we would have won them over. As there was alot of progress there and alot of happy people that they don't talk about. That's why there were so many people trying to work on the bases to make a better life for themselves but you don't hear much about that on the news
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08-15-2021, 10:56 PM #24Hall Of Fame Poster
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You want to think that no matter what party we elect they know what the right thing to do in situations like this is. I just want to know WHO said, okay lets pull out. It's a specific person or persons. There are likely equally persons that said, "if we do this horrific things wil happen".... and I'm guessing it's a lot of them.
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