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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    You are the first lefty OPENLY chauvinist I have ever come across.

    In any case the real problem you keep missing is the welfare state filling in as the breadwinner in homes. There are lots of nuclear families. maybe most now, where the mom/wife works but the father is still in the home. And single mother homes where the mother works are likely where the most successful kids come from in those conditions. It is the single parent on welfare where the most issues come from and kids are the least successful.

    It's the welfare state first and foremost.
    Germany is a socialist democratic country and they still believe in the nuclear family as they want you to have a parent be home with the kids for atleast the first 3 yrs of the child's life. Most EU countries do it this way

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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman43 View Post
    Germany is a socialist democratic country and they still believe in the nuclear family as they want you to have a parent be home with the kids for atleast the first 3 yrs of the child's life. Most EU countries do it this way

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    So they don't have a welfare state that acts as the breadwinner to replace the father in the home then.

    Again, it is OUR welfare state that bans the father from being in the home. You get less or no money (depending on the program) if their is a male parent in the home. Worse yet if he works.

    Our government sucks ass in both how it taxes and spends and constantly encourages not working and not being responsible and punishing work and responsibility These are consequences of leftist policies that tax production and savings and subsidizes slews of poor behavior.





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    So they don't have a welfare state that acts as the breadwinner to replace the father in the home then.

    Again, it is OUR welfare state that bans the father from being in the home. You get less or no money (depending on the program) if their is a male parent in the home. Worse yet if he works.

    Our government sucks ass in both how it taxes and spends and constantly encourages not working and not being responsible and punishing work and responsibility These are consequences of leftist policies that tax production and savings and subsidizes slews of poor behavior.
    They actually help pay while one parent is home to make up for the lost income, universal health care they also pay you 250 for every kid you have

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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman43 View Post
    They actually help pay while one parent is home to make up for the lost income, universal health care they also pay you 250 for every kid you have

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    So they SUBSIDIZE nuclear families instead of penalizing like here, which again comes from leftist policies.





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    I do agree with you on the way our system is designed. Nbut it doesn't help that women or atleast one parent doesn't want to be home anymore

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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman43 View Post
    I do agree with you on the way our system is designed. Nbut it doesn't help that women or atleast one parent doesn't want to be home anymore

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    I would agree with that but it isn't even close to the problem the break up of the nuclear family is.

    No where close.





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    I would agree with that but it isn't even close to the problem the break up of the nuclear family is.

    No where close.
    It is part of it because they did not want to stay home and take care of kids anymore now they are both out the house

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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman43 View Post
    It is part of it because they did not want to stay home and take care of kids anymore now they are both out the house

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    A nuclear family, even with both parents working, does not have near the problems with kids that single parent families on welfare do. NOT EVEN CLOSE!

    In the grand scheme of cultural degradation in this country it isn't nearly as important as single mothers on welfare. That is the Great Society brought to us by the left.





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman43 View Post
    It is part of it because they did not want to stay home and take care of kids anymore now they are both out the house

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  10. Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    [QUOTE=Greg;2107033]And dropping out of high school, teenage pregnancy, etc.

    It is the biggest problem in our country and is the unintended consequence of the welfare state and LBJ's ironically named "The Great Society." Before that families, including minority families, were about 90% of the time nuclear. Now it is unusual for black children to have a father in the house.[/QUOTE]

    Thats because such a high percentage have been shipped off to jails for any manner of reasons.





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBasedFan View Post

    Thats because such a high percentage have been shipped off to jails for any manner of reasons.
    Whats the reason for the increase in absent fathers in home if white children?





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBasedFan View Post
    Thats because such a high percentage have been shipped off to jails for any manner of reasons.
    Nice try but no.
    Last edited by Greg; 07-13-2021 at 06:10 PM.





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