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    The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America



    Emperor Octavius speech to his fellow Romans and the importance of marriage to the family.

    We are the enemy and the defeat of the family will be the defeat of Rome.

    Is this a real fate for America? There are a lot of broken families being raised by mothers.





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Yes I believe the end of the nuclear has caused us major issues in America

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    The emperor Augustus banished his daughter Julia and made public the scandals of his House. She had received lovers in droves. She had roamed the city in nocturnal revels, choosing for her own pleasures the Forum, and the very Rostrum from which her father had proposed his adultery law. Turning from adultery to prostitution, she had stationed herself at the statue of Marsyas, seeking gratification of every kind in the arms of casual lovers. He banned her from being buried in his mausoleum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman43 View Post
    Yes I believe the end of the nuclear has caused us major issues in America

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    No doubt. I imagine if there was a bar graph out there somewhere showing when the nuclear family began to disintegrate, it will/would show the associated rise in crime, our prisons filling up, etc., etc. Yet, some would have us all believe that it's for entirely different reasons. Here we are.





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by blueridgemtnman View Post
    No doubt. I imagine if there was a bar graph out there somewhere showing when the nuclear family began to disintegrate, it will/would show the associated rise in crime, our prisons filling up, etc., etc. Yet, some would have us all believe that it's for entirely different reasons. Here we are.
    And dropping out of high school, teenage pregnancy, etc.

    It is the biggest problem in our country and is the unintended consequence of the welfare state and LBJ's ironically named "The Great Society." Before that families, including minority families, were about 90% of the time nuclear. Now it is unusual for black children to have a father in the house.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    And dropping out of high school, teenage pregnancy, etc.

    It is the biggest problem in our country and is the unintended consequence of the welfare state and LBJ's ironically named "The Great Society." Before that families, including minority families, were about 90% of the time nuclear. Now it is unusual for black children to have a father in the house.
    I believe it started with the feminist movement where women didn't wanna be home anymore. I can tell you alot socialist countries still believe in the nuclear family.

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    I saw the police chasing an SUV. They caught the suspects and they couldn't been no more than 13-14 years of age. It's a continued cycle of crime. Even with all of the incarcerations their is a new generation to continue the crime.





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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman43 View Post
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    I can tell you alot socialist countries still believe in the nuclear family.

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    ???? Marx and Engels wanted the abolition of the nuclear family.





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    Most countries in Europe are "welfare states" Germany for one definitely still believe in the nuclear family. Here in America it's more about women not wanting to stay home anymore and do the same things a man does in other words be a man

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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman43 View Post
    Most countries in Europe are "welfare states" Germany for one definitely still believe in the nuclear family. Here in America it's more about women not wanting to stay home anymore and do the same things a man does in other words be a man

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    You are the first lefty OPENLY chauvinist I have ever come across.

    In any case the real problem you keep missing is the welfare state filling in as the breadwinner in homes. There are lots of nuclear families. maybe most now, where the mom/wife works but the father is still in the home. And single mother homes where the mother works are likely where the most successful kids come from in those conditions. It is the single parent on welfare where the most issues come from and kids are the least successful.

    It's the welfare state first and foremost.





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    You have in America a divide between men and women. This red pill phenomenon in that women are hated. This just going to continue the downfall of society.





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    Re: The Defeat of the Family Will Be The Defeat of America

    Quote Originally Posted by simplesimon View Post
    You have in America a divide between men and women. This red pill phenomenon in that women are hated. This just going to continue the downfall of society.
    This comes from the modern feminist movement

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