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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad the lad View Post
    Just curious. What about this, would cause you to rank this as such a success?

    This virus, after 15 months. Has only infected 10% of the population. Of this 10%, only about 10% of them show symptoms. And if those 10%, only 1% of them die while testing positive with in days. We don’t know if they died from covid, but they died with it.

    So now we have a vaccine. That seems to do about the same thing. Less than 10% that get the vaccine, could still get the virus.

    I think if this country survives this push to over take capitalism. And if this country survives the rigged elections. And if we ever elect someone that puts America first, we will finally realize that the covid scandal was the biggest corrupt scandal of the history of this country.
    Simply the fact that they were able to create a vaccine as effective as this as quickly as they did. Keep in mind, when COVID really came around in Feb/March....no one knew much of anything. Thus the incredible overreaction. It really wasn't until early summer months before the scientific community was able to really get to a point of decent knowledge about the vaccine and how to proceed. And then to go from really not knowing much of anything in March to having the first vaccines rolled out in November/December? That's incredible. Normally vaccines take years to develop.
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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    No. Why?
    Because the radiation and heat from consistent laptop usage on top of the genitals of males and females can also cause fertility issues.

    Lots of things can cause fertility issues.

    Sitting in a hot tub can cause lower sperm count in men.
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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    I have had COVID and have the anti-bodies. Does that exempt me? I don't want this vaccine.
    Having antibodies certainly helps, but it won't help that much against potential new strains if you were to inadvertently come into contact with them.
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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by blah3 View Post
    Last December, a German epidemiologist said the COVID-19 vaccines might make women’s bodies reject a protein that’s connected to placenta, therefore making women infertile. He thought this because the genetic code of the placenta protein, called syncytin-1, shares a hint of similarity with the genetic code of the spike protein in COVID-19. If the vaccines caused our bodies to make antibodies to protect us from COVID-19, he thought, they could also make antibodies to reject the placenta.

    This, however, was a theoretical risk that was completely disproven in the clinical trials and continues to be disproven in real time as more women of child-bearing age become fully vaccinated.

    “It’s inaccurate to say that COVID-19’s spike protein and this placenta protein share a similar genetic code,” says D’Angela Pitts, M.D., a maternal fetal medicine specialist with Henry Ford Health System. “The proteins are not similar enough to cause placenta to not attach to an embryo.”

    Evidence Firmly Shows The COVID-19 Vaccines Do Not Cause Infertility
    “Women who participated in the COVID-19 clinical trials were able to conceive after vaccination," says Dr. Pitts. "We also have many patients here at Henry Ford who got vaccinated and then became pregnant afterwards. Some are in their first trimester, some are now in their second trimester. There’s no evidence to show that the COVID-19 vaccines lead to reduced fertility.”

    https://www.henryford.com/blog/2021/...-covid-vaccine
    And there are women who are reporting issues who have the vaccine. So what?

    Hell... even in Pzifers own trials they recommended people not participate who were having or planning children.

    https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/...uH0Q93NlQyHKvU

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    PF-07302048 (BNT162 RNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccines)Protocol C4591001Page 13210.4.Appendix 4: Contraceptive Guidance10.4.1.Male Participant Reproductive Inclusion CriteriaMale participants are eligible to participate if they agree to the following requirements during the intervention period and for at least 28daysafter the last dose of study intervention,whichcorresponds to the time needed to eliminate reproductive safety risk of the study intervention(s):•Refrain from donating sperm.PLUS either:•Be abstinent from heterosexual intercourse with a female of childbearing potential as their preferred and usual lifestyle (abstinent on a long-term and persistent basis) and agree to remain abstinent.OR•Must agree to use a male condom when engaging in any activity that allows for passage of ejaculate to another person.•Inaddition to male condom use, a highly effective method of contraception may be considered in WOCBPpartners of male participants(refer to the list of highly effective methods belowin Section 10.4.4).10.4.2.Female Participant Reproductive Inclusion CriteriaA female participant is eligible to participate if she is not pregnant or breastfeeding, and at least 1of the following conditions applies:•Is not a WOCBP (see definitions belowin Section 10.4.3).OR•Is a WOCBP and using an acceptablecontraceptive method as described below during the intervention period (for a minimum of28 days after the last dose of study intervention). The investigator should evaluate the effectiveness of the contraceptive method in relationship to the first dose of study intervention.The investigator is responsible for review of medical history, menstrual history, and recent sexual activity to decrease the risk for inclusion of a woman with an early undetected pregnancy.
    PF-07302048 (BNT162 RNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccines)Protocol C4591001Page 13310.4.3.Woman of Childbearing PotentialA woman is considered fertile following menarche and until becoming postmenopausal unless permanently sterile (see below).If fertility is unclear (eg, amenorrhea in adolescents or athletes) and a menstrual cycle cannot be confirmed before the first dose of study intervention, additional evaluation should be considered.Women in the following categories are notconsidered WOCBP:1.Premenarchal.2.Premenopausal female with 1 of the following:•Documented hysterectomy;•Documented bilateral salpingectomy;•Documented bilateral oophorectomy.For individuals with permanent infertility due to an alternate medical cause other than the above,(eg, mullerian agenesis, androgen insensitivity), investigator discretion should be applied to determining study entry.Note: Documentation for any of the above categories can come from the site personnel’s review of the participant’s medical records, medical examination, or medical history interview.The method of documentation should be recorded in the participant’s medical record for the study.3.Postmenopausal female:•A postmenopausal state is defined as no menses for 12months without an alternative medical cause. In addition, a•high FSH level in the postmenopausal range must be used to confirm a postmenopausal state in women under 60 years of age andnot using hormonal contraception or HRT.•Female on HRT and whose menopausal status is in doubt will be required to use one of the nonestrogen hormonal highly effective contraception methods if they wish to continue their HRT during the study.Otherwise, they must discontinue HRT to allow confirmation of postmenopausal status before study enro
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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Having antibodies certainly helps, but it won't help that much against potential new strains if you were to inadvertently come into contact with them.
    2 things.

    1. Won't he need a new vaccine, to have antibodies fo rthose if his current antibodies won't work?

    2. People who have antibodies from the original SARS are able to fight this (So I'm told from someone) and this is 78% similar to the orignal SARS. Variants/ new strains are typically within a 3% range. Putting those 2 together, I think he should be fine (and me too if what I did ineed have was "COVID toes" back in February).
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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    2 things.

    1. Won't he need a new vaccine, to have antibodies fo rthose if his current antibodies won't work?

    2. People who have antibodies from the original SARS are able to fight this (So I'm told from someone) and this is 78% similar to the orignal SARS. Variants/ new strains are typically within a 3% range. Putting those 2 together, I think he should be fine (and me too if what I did ineed have was "COVID toes" back in February).
    But yeah, as of now the governments microchips only have power for a year before they need you to get your next booster shot with a new chip.

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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    But yeah, as of now the governments microchips only have power for a year before they need you to get your next booster shot with a new chip.

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    LOL
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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by blah3 View Post
    Last December, a German epidemiologist said the COVID-19 vaccines might make women’s bodies reject a protein that’s connected to placenta, therefore making women infertile. He thought this because the genetic code of the placenta protein, called syncytin-1, shares a hint of similarity with the genetic code of the spike protein in COVID-19. If the vaccines caused our bodies to make antibodies to protect us from COVID-19, he thought, they could also make antibodies to reject the placenta.

    This, however, was a theoretical risk that was completely disproven in the clinical trials and continues to be disproven in real time as more women of child-bearing age become fully vaccinated.

    “It’s inaccurate to say that COVID-19’s spike protein and this placenta protein share a similar genetic code,” says D’Angela Pitts, M.D., a maternal fetal medicine specialist with Henry Ford Health System. “The proteins are not similar enough to cause placenta to not attach to an embryo.”

    Evidence Firmly Shows The COVID-19 Vaccines Do Not Cause Infertility
    “Women who participated in the COVID-19 clinical trials were able to conceive after vaccination," says Dr. Pitts. "We also have many patients here at Henry Ford who got vaccinated and then became pregnant afterwards. Some are in their first trimester, some are now in their second trimester. There’s no evidence to show that the COVID-19 vaccines lead to reduced fertility.”

    https://www.henryford.com/blog/2021/...-covid-vaccine
    So I was just rereading this and something doesn't make sense. The vaccines came out in what, November? How could women have been vaccinated AND already been in their 2nd trimester by December?

    That timeline doesn't make sense unless it's just worded poorly.
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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    So I was just rereading this and something doesn't make sense. The vaccines came out in what, November? How could women have been vaccinated AND already been in their 2nd trimester by December?

    That timeline doesn't make sense unless it's just worded poorly.
    You do realize they tested the vaccine on tens of thousands of people prior to release? I know you like to say it’s experimental, but they did a lot of testing on it.





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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Simply the fact that they were able to create a vaccine as effective as this as quickly as they did. Keep in mind, when COVID really came around in Feb/March....no one knew much of anything. Thus the incredible overreaction. It really wasn't until early summer months before the scientific community was able to really get to a point of decent knowledge about the vaccine and how to proceed. And then to go from really not knowing much of anything in March to having the first vaccines rolled out in November/December? That's incredible. Normally vaccines take years to develop.
    Do the vaccines themselves take years to create, or is it the thorough testing and approval of them? Most of that time is built in to ensure rigorous trials and testing take place over time. Does removing those standards make it amazing or wreckless? I'm invested in some mRNA and non-mRNA cancer drug companies and they have been going through trials for years and still aren't approved.

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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    I think the Biden admin is realizing they need to push a little harder to get people out of lockdown mode.

    Their biggest opposition, the main group keeping things from opening up are their own party members.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ckdown/618780/





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    Re: I see Biden says no more masks if you've been vaccinated

    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERBLOOD View Post
    Do the vaccines themselves take years to create, or is it the thorough testing and approval of them? Most of that time is built in to ensure rigorous trials and testing take place over time. Does removing those standards make it amazing or wreckless? I'm invested in some mRNA and non-mRNA cancer drug companies and they have been going through trials for years and still aren't approved.

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    Its the money it takes. This vaccine had the ability to draw from the endless us govt finances. The rigorous trials were adhered to





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