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05-08-2021, 12:22 PM #49
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05-08-2021, 12:38 PM #50
Re: There can only be One #1 WR - Hollywood vs Bateman
The beauty here is that their games are so perfectly complementary. There is some irony to Hollywood’s game in that the best way for him to put up a number one WR type performance is for him to be playing next to an X who is a more traditional “number one WR.”
Basically I think once Bateman gets his feet on the ground (maybe by the end of this year, maybe by the end of ‘22) he’ll probably have more of a gravitational pull on the defense on a snap to snap basis. But I think Hollywood leads the team in yards if healthy. And there will be games where one guy goes tf off and the other is relatively quiet based on how the defense chooses to play them. But if Bateman hits it’ll be damn near impossible to take both of them away, and that’s part of why I love this pick so much.
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05-08-2021, 12:49 PM #51Hall Of Fame Poster
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05-08-2021, 12:53 PM #52Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: There can only be One #1 WR - Hollywood vs Bateman
A no1 guy is a guy who can pick up a first down when it’s absolutely needed when the game is on the line...yeah Hollywood ain’t it. I hope Someone idc who steps up
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05-08-2021, 02:36 PM #53
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05-08-2021, 03:05 PM #54Veteran Poster
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Re: There can only be One #1 WR - Hollywood vs Bateman
You design routes to beat coverages not for specific players. Usually the defense dictates where the ball goes. QB sees the this defense the receivers go where they are designed to go and the ball goes where the defense dictates the ball goes.
I don’t think it's so much about who is 1 and 2 but more about who can beat what coverage. At this stage I don't think neither of them is a Diggs , Adams, Hopkins, etc. Where you line them up and and no matter the defense you throw them the ball. These guys are going to have to understand coverages and where the weakness in the coverage is. They are going to have to beat 1v1 coverage and run good routes. I think they will share targets and both should be able to eat in this offense.
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05-08-2021, 03:11 PM #55Veteran Poster
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Re: There can only be One #1 WR - Hollywood vs Bateman
That doesn't mean that they have given up on Wood. Could mean that they see that they need another receiver so teams won't double Wood. Could mean that they need to make the pass offense more dynamic with one more playmaker (likely this scenario). I would be surprised if they don't pick up Woods 5th year option. For nothing else to keep Lamar happy. I think they will try to extend Wood but I don't think they will break the bank on him. Bateman gives them insurance in the case that Wood wants top receiver money (based on his recent outburst this is highly likely).
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05-08-2021, 05:51 PM #56Regular 1st Stringer
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05-08-2021, 08:49 PM #57
Re: There can only be One #1 WR - Hollywood vs Bateman
One thing i am happy about drafting Bateman is that we drafted him before he was a "must draft position" ie like what we did when Torrey left in Perrimen. We didnt force it, he just fell to us which most didnt think would happen. So by the time Hollywood is ready to walk (i dont think we pay him) Bateman will be the guy we can depend on.
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05-08-2021, 09:25 PM #58
Re: There can only be One #1 WR - Hollywood vs Bateman
As far as volume I still think the defacto primary receiver is Andrews
Out of strictly the WR's, with Bateman/Hollywood it's too early to tell who steps up as the "WR1" in 2021. I can see Bateman lighting it up and being that guy as a rookie, I can also see Hollywood getting even better with more WR talent to help spring him open and being the most productive WR in 2021.
Long term, I think it's Bateman though
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05-08-2021, 11:44 PM #59Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: There can only be One #1 WR - Hollywood vs Bateman
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Re: There can only be One #1 WR - Hollywood vs Bateman
Its not one or the other its both. Plays are designed to beat coverages for sure but they're also designed to get certain players the ball.
I believe it was Bill Parcells that said something like in certain situations a playcaller should think of players not plays.
Usually the defense dictates where the ball goes. QB sees the this defense the receivers go where they are designed to go and the ball goes where the defense dictates the ball goes.
I don’t think it's so much about who is 1 and 2 but more about who can beat what coverage. At this stage I don't think neither of them is a Diggs , Adams, Hopkins, etc. Where you line them up and and no matter the defense you throw them the ball. These guys are going to have to understand coverages and where the weakness in the coverage is. They are going to have to beat 1v1 coverage and run good routes. I think they will share targets and both should be able to eat in this offense.
I'm merely asking who would you design your offense/passing game to feature?"Those corners...and those safeties are going to be one-on-one... and we got to make them pay for it," Harbs
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