Ravens Sign Alejandro Villaneuva to a 2-year Deal

[John Reglarperson]

i was wondering about maybe putting ovechkin in at center and using his skates to block!?!

Not on the Ravens.

[edromeo]

think Villanueva will be a pro bowl RT in this offense

[John Reglarperson]

Put Bredeson in at QB, let’s have Phillips at RB after that mean run, flex Powers out wide. Put Boykin at LT (they’ll never see it coming) and have Stanley at RB. Then we can do a split back set with Phillips and Stanley. Maybe we can convert Lamar to DT or something.

If you're going to put Bredeson in at QB, I don't see the advantage of him. Ben Cleveland is bigger and faster than Bredeson. It may be that Bredeson is very difficult to tackle. I'd say, Ben Cleveland over Bredeson, before actually assessing them.

Boykin at LT could work. I assume that none of you have heard of Emory & Henry or Swinging Gate formations. Or how about the Packer Sweep, Lombardi Sweep.

You have a smaller faster guy at LT, and you have Villanueva at TE, and Cleveland is slotted in at RT, and they crush it, and Boykin is pulling from LT on the left to go block a db on the right. Villanueva + Cleveland will certainly put a seal there. Boykin could get a handoff from the LT position. No rule preventing that, or take a lateral, or he could throw the ball.

Poljan was a college QB at CMU.

What you could do with a big guy (Cleveland) at QB is basically the same thing as putting Patrick Ricard at QB. QB doesn't really mean "main thrower guy". The original meaning "Quarter" "Back" meant he's the guy who stands closest to the Line. Cleveland could take the snap and pitch to Lamar most of the time. It would be very much like normal. But there's an additional 6'6 343 blocker in the backfield.

So, Ben Cleveland or any other Ben, and Ricard, could get under center, take the snap and pitch it to Lamar. And they could do that quickly. Sometimes, though, they could just run the ball up the middle.


What would really be great would be if Ben Cleveland could play Center. That way you have a very powerful, road grading Center, which are rare. Not too many 6'6 343 pound Centers who run 5.05 40s.

So, you have Cleveland at Center. Villaneuva is a RT/TE depending on if there are adds to the oline.

And Bredeson at QB was suggested. Maybe Oweh? Take the snap, follow Ben Cleveland on a run, pitch back to Lamar, go lead block, or stay in to pass protect. Ricard. Pretty much anybody you put in there would bring something different. Dobbins or Edwards or Mason, taking the snap under center, pitching back to Lamar.

DC put Logan Thomas in motion, got him under center, took the snap, ran. After that when he motioned under center, all the linebackers bunched together in the middle. Putting a runner under center is going to pull LBs in, so, if Lamar runs outside is the play, having a big runner at the QB spot drawing defense away from where Lamar is going to be seems good.

I'm not saying this is how it goes every play. The Ravens will probably win enough games in the regular season pretty much doing whatever. It's in the playoffs where the extra is needed, every game must be won. And these are the extras that get wins. Having Villanueva out there in the red zone in the 2nd half of a playoff game might help the Ravens win. Lamar plus 10 blockers could work with blocking sized players, if you want to split Powers out, that's works, whatever, Powers is big enough to block split out. It's a Lamar run. Also your ideas are good ones if you have useful blockers in there.

Lamar at DT would be dropping back into coverage. Others, larger blitzers, would fill his space on the line. Lamar could be a Safety or Corner. But he's too busy for this.

Lots of good ideas there, keep up the good work. When you put more oliners on the field that should mean better blocking for Lamar, and some of these oliners might be tough to tackle when Lamar isn't running.

[John Reglarperson]

think Villanueva will be a pro bowl RT in this offense

very well could be, yes.

He's a war hero, there's something to be said for getting a hero guy some TD catches, pro bowl, sell jerseys to Patriots and MAGA types. It's said he's good at downblocking, he should have an easier time pass protecting on the right side. Steelers did a lot of outside zone? Which required the LT to do a lot of running? Orlando Brown was a bit like an immovable mountain. Villaneuva probably less so, but Villanueva has to be faster than Brown, if Villanueva had trouble with outside zone, Brown would have had more trouble with that.

Villanueva over Brown might turn out to be an upgrade. If they look to maximize his production, with catches from blocking TE, just put another oliner in there, pretty easy.

Maybe they can look at developing a goal line/red zone set, which would include Villanueva at TE and other changes. Big and running. One oline for big red zone and a different oline for between the 20s, typical offense, the one with more passing.

[JonAB]

Not on the Ravens.

we could sign him though? or maybe vlad guerrero jr with a bat? he’s hitting balls 115mph with a vengeance now and is nearly the size of an oline? sparq probably good? what you think? do u think they’d let him use the bat on the field? he’d be dinging d linemen out the park left and right

[JonAB]

If you're going to put Bredeson in at QB, I don't see the advantage of him. Ben Cleveland is bigger and faster than Bredeson. It may be that Bredeson is very difficult to tackle. I'd say, Ben Cleveland over Bredeson, before actually assessing them.

Boykin at LT could work. I assume that none of you have heard of Emory & Henry or Swinging Gate formations. Or how about the Packer Sweep, Lombardi Sweep.

You have a smaller faster guy at LT, and you have Villanueva at TE, and Cleveland is slotted in at RT, and they crush it, and Boykin is pulling from LT on the left to go block a db on the right. Villanueva + Cleveland will certainly put a seal there. Boykin could get a handoff from the LT position. No rule preventing that, or take a lateral, or he could throw the ball.

Poljan was a college QB at CMU.

What you could do with a big guy (Cleveland) at QB is basically the same thing as putting Patrick Ricard at QB. QB doesn't really mean "main thrower guy". The original meaning "Quarter" "Back" meant he's the guy who stands closest to the Line. Cleveland could take the snap and pitch to Lamar most of the time. It would be very much like normal. But there's an additional 6'6 343 blocker in the backfield.

So, Ben Cleveland or any other Ben, and Ricard, could get under center, take the snap and pitch it to Lamar. And they could do that quickly. Sometimes, though, they could just run the ball up the middle.


What would really be great would be if Ben Cleveland could play Center. That way you have a very powerful, road grading Center, which are rare. Not too many 6'6 343 pound Centers who run 5.05 40s.

So, you have Cleveland at Center. Villaneuva is a RT/TE depending on if there are adds to the oline.

And Bredeson at QB was suggested. Maybe Oweh? Take the snap, follow Ben Cleveland on a run, pitch back to Lamar, go lead block, or stay in to pass protect. Ricard. Pretty much anybody you put in there would bring something different. Dobbins or Edwards or Mason, taking the snap under center, pitching back to Lamar.

DC put Logan Thomas in motion, got him under center, took the snap, ran. After that when he motioned under center, all the linebackers bunched together in the middle. Putting a runner under center is going to pull LBs in, so, if Lamar runs outside is the play, having a big runner at the QB spot drawing defense away from where Lamar is going to be seems good.

I'm not saying this is how it goes every play. The Ravens will probably win enough games in the regular season pretty much doing whatever. It's in the playoffs where the extra is needed, every game must be won. And these are the extras that get wins. Having Villanueva out there in the red zone in the 2nd half of a playoff game might help the Ravens win. Lamar plus 10 blockers could work with blocking sized players, if you want to split Powers out, that's works, whatever, Powers is big enough to block split out. It's a Lamar run. Also your ideas are good ones if you have useful blockers in there.

Lamar at DT would be dropping back into coverage. Others, larger blitzers, would fill his space on the line. Lamar could be a Safety or Corner. But he's too busy for this.

Lots of good ideas there, keep up the good work. When you put more oliners on the field that should mean better blocking for Lamar, and some of these oliners might be tough to tackle when Lamar isn't running.

oh my god.

[leachisabeast]

Boykin at left tackle 😂

[Valhain]

Glad you're here to translate that lol

Makes sense about protecting ben in that type of offense. I don't think its sustainable in the NFL.

He actually says it was suicidal, always on a two point stance and doing vert sets, giving the SOB (his words) in front of him the same look over and over and over again, 50 times per game.

[leachisabeast]

He actually says it was suicidal, always on a two point stance and doing vert sets, giving the SOB (his words) in front of him the same look over and over and over again, 50 times per game.

It's crazy. Imagine going back to 2008 and telling steelers fans that they are going to become a team that drops back 60 times a game, with no run game while throwing the defense out to dry. They'd laugh you out of ketchup field

[TIGERBLOOD]

He actually says it was suicidal, always on a two point stance and doing vert sets, giving the SOB (his words) in front of him the same look over and over and over again, 50 times per game.

He will be motivated AF this year. Cant wait.

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[edromeo]

I think Villanueva is going to be a pro-bowl RT

[Cleo&Dilly]

If Stanley is healthy this is going to be one hell of an OL. Even without the receiver upgrade this is going to do wonders for the passing game.