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  1. #25

    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan View Post
    Sewell is almost flawless on tape. I just don't know what to think about all these long layoffs.

    Jeudy/Ruggs/Lamb vs Chase/Waddle/Smith. Will be interesting to follow. Last year Jefferson ended up being the best rookie (and a record breaking one). Will it be a guy outside the top three this year?

    I like defense more than offense so that could be a problem with me - the NFL certainly likes offense better. QBs are the alpha and omega and this class would match up against Herbert, Burrow, and Tagovailoa with two extra shots at it.
    Iím a defense guy too, but the top of this class isnít for us... the best defensive prospect this year may be the worst ďbest defensive prospectĒ I can recall. Who is it even? I could see arguments for Parsons, Surtain, Paye, Barmore... thatís not good news.

    The bright side, is that this draft is strong in the right positions for late first rounders. I think we will have a player or two available each at WR/OT/EDGE worthy of our draft a lot plus Moehrig has a chance to be around and fill another need. Although, if we really like 6-8 guys at our pick you know what that means... but it takes two to tango. Sometimes I feel like the Ravens donít pound the table and pick their favorite enough and opt to trade back and let the board come to them too often.


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  2. #26

    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    I think every draft year is the same in quality.
    More important is the guys doing the draft. Draft like the patriots Steelers and us and youíll be good





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    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by HanktheRIPPER View Post
    I think every draft year is the same in quality.
    More important is the guys doing the draft. Draft like the patriots Steelers and us and you’ll be good
    There are definitely fluctuations, but because there are so many picks and so many roster spots to fill (in 2021 it's 53 + 12 = 65 on each team), you will always be able to find good players.
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    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Cumulative Pro Bowl Selections (1at Team All Pro Selections) by Draft Class (2003-2012)

    2003 - 96 (25)
    2004 - 87 (15)
    2005 - 94 (20)
    2006 - 107 (23)
    2007 - 104 (33)
    2008 - 72 (14)
    2009 - 54 (6)
    2010 - 120 (32)

    2011 - 109 (30)
    2012 - 92 (27)
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    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Gil Brandt:
    The success of players who run sub-4.4 short shuttles AND sub-7.00 3-cones is pretty high in the NFL. Look for the ones who don't get drafted from this list to be priority free agents.

    *All official times




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    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Gil Brandt:
    The success of players who run sub-4.4 short shuttles AND sub-7.00 3-cones is pretty high in the NFL. Look for the ones who don't get drafted from this list to be priority free agents.

    *All official times




    I like that both Michael Carter and Michael Carter II are on the list
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    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Let's just isolate WR for now

    On the List
    Tutu Atwell
    Jhamon Ausbon
    Rashod Bateman
    Dyami Brown
    Ja'Marr Chase
    Nico Collins
    Jaelon Darden
    D'Wayne Eskridge
    Simi Fehoko
    Trevon Grimes
    Dax Milne
    Elijah Moore
    Rondale Moore
    Tre Nixon
    Josh Palmer
    Shi Smith
    Amon-Ra St. Brown
    Marquez Stevenson (4.21 / 6.86)
    Mike Strachan
    Kadarius Toney
    Tylan Wallace

    Dem's a lot of WRs. Methinks the correlation may not be as strong because it's a faster, more agile position group as a whole.

    Not On The List
    Jonathan Adams Jr (7.04 cone)
    Damonte Coxie (4.45 shuttle)
    Frank Darby (7.15 cone)
    Dazz Newsome (7.39 cone)
    Whop Philyor (7.20 cone)
    Cornell Powell (7.03 cone)
    Amari Rodgers (7.07 cone)
    Anthony Schwartz (7.13 cone)
    Ihmir Smith-Marsette (7.06 cone)
    Sage Surratt (no cone time but ran a 4.70 forty)
    Tyler Vaughns (4.40 shuttle, 7.15 cone)
    Tre Walker (4.47 shuttle, 7.75 cone <- wow)
    Marlon Williams (4.57 shuttle)
    Seth Williams (4.43 shuttle, 7.20 cone)

    Pretty clear line of demarcation between these lists and where WRs are expected to be drafted. Looks like Gil Brandt isn't the only NFL exec that believes in such a correlation.

    No times
    Cade Johnson
    Devonta Smith
    Temorrion Terry
    Jaylen Waddle
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    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan View Post
    Let's just isolate WR for now

    On the List
    Tutu Atwell
    Jhamon Ausbon
    Rashod Bateman
    Dyami Brown
    Ja'Marr Chase
    Nico Collins
    Jaelon Darden
    D'Wayne Eskridge
    Simi Fehoko
    Trevon Grimes
    Dax Milne
    Elijah Moore
    Rondale Moore
    Tre Nixon
    Josh Palmer
    Shi Smith
    Amon-Ra St. Brown
    Marquez Stevenson (4.21 / 6.86)
    Mike Strachan
    Kadarius Toney
    Tylan Wallace

    Dem's a lot of WRs. Methinks the correlation may not be as strong because it's a faster, more agile position group as a whole.

    Not On The List
    Jonathan Adams Jr (7.04 cone)
    Damonte Coxie (4.45 shuttle)
    Frank Darby (7.15 cone)
    Dazz Newsome (7.39 cone)
    Whop Philyor (7.20 cone)
    Cornell Powell (7.03 cone)
    Amari Rodgers (7.07 cone)
    Anthony Schwartz (7.13 cone)
    Ihmir Smith-Marsette (7.06 cone)
    Sage Surratt (no cone time but ran a 4.70 forty)
    Tyler Vaughns (4.40 shuttle, 7.15 cone)
    Tre Walker (4.47 shuttle, 7.75 cone <- wow)
    Marlon Williams (4.57 shuttle)
    Seth Williams (4.43 shuttle, 7.20 cone)

    Pretty clear line of demarcation between these lists and where WRs are expected to be drafted. Looks like Gil Brandt isn't the only NFL exec that believes in such a correlation.

    No times
    Cade Johnson
    Devonta Smith
    Temorrion Terry
    Jaylen Waddle
    Notable absence from any of these lists-Kiperís guy Marshall.


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  9. #33

    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Gil Brandt:
    The success of players who run sub-4.4 short shuttles AND sub-7.00 3-cones is pretty high in the NFL. Look for the ones who don't get drafted from this list to be priority free agents.

    *All official times




    Jayson Oweh is 4.20 6.9, draft this man





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    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    ISometimes I feel like the Ravens donít pound the table and pick their favorite enough
    Ozzie did for Lamar.





  11. #35

    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by chartman View Post
    Jayson Oweh is 4.20 6.9, draft this man
    Bro those numbers are fake as hell..





  12. #36

    Re: Quality of the 2021 NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by JimZipCode View Post
    Ozzie did for Lamar.
    After they had already taken Hayden Hurst...

    But yes, that is an example of the bold type of move I wish they did more often.
    And I suppose, Marquise me even Queen could be argued to be similarly coveted and drafted, but there were rumors there simply wasnít offers on our trade back attempts both years.


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