Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
From a religious view it is a civil union. At least that's my view.

On your abortion position, each baby has a different point of when it can live outside the mother's womb. In any case, why does that matter. The baby is still dependent for food, clothing, and other care. I am trying to sway you, on this one I try and get folks to see the unborn as human beings in need of protection because I hate what is happening to so many. And disproportionately minorities.
Very well said. The baby when concepted has to be taken care of until it can live on it's own.