Justin Houston to visit Ravens

**Missingweblink** · 04-09-2021, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

Apparently, Houston wants to sign now. Would the Ravens give up a comp pick to make sure they got him?

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This drives me crazy sometimes to be honest.

**boller4president** · 04-09-2021, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

He had a pretty poor pressure rate. I'd prefer Melvin Ingram but we'll see.

We could sign both. How much do you expect him to sign for? Spotrac has us at 13.5M. I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign for 4-5M AAV this late.

**Davesta** · 04-09-2021, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

Apparently, Houston wants to sign now. Would the Ravens give up a comp pick to make sure they got him?

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Sign any of them before may might cost us a 4th round comp. we in a tough spot, EDC love his comp picks. At the same time, no player is going to wait around for a promise from a franchise, especially waiting through the draft coming up.

**BcRaven** · 04-09-2021, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Davesta

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Sign any of them before may night cost us a 4th round comp. we in a tough spot, EDC love his comp picks. At the same time, no player is going to wait around for a promise from a franchise, especially waiting through the draft coming up.

Yeah Dave, and EDC was trained by Ozzie to love those Comp Picks. I don't blame him if he waits, but Houston (or any other UFA is signed pre-May 3rd) he would just have to live with it. Patience is a virtue... Bc

**boller4president** · 04-09-2021, 06:00 PM

I think we have lost way more free agents then we have signed. Are we sure this is correct?

**Davesta** · 04-09-2021, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Yeah Dave, and EDC was trained by Ozzie to love those Comp Picks. I don't blame him if he waits, but Houston (or any other UFA is signed pre-May 3rd) he would just have to live with it. Patience is a virtue... Bc

Yeah. If it’s Houston, I understand.

But I’m in the camp of wanting Clowney still. And if we risk losing out on him merely due to a 4th round comp pick security, I would be disappointed.

**edromeo** · 04-09-2021, 06:06 PM

Hell yeah, right player right place.

But, don't negotiate yourself out of a good deal.

**Shas** · 04-09-2021, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

He had a pretty poor pressure rate. I'd prefer Melvin Ingram but we'll see.

I must be reading the wrong sites bc I saw where he has been consistently at the top of the hurries list.

**boller4president** · 04-09-2021, 06:10 PM

Just going off memory Watkins is the only true free agent we have signed other then Stone who probably doesn't qualify in the formula.

While we have lost Skura, Moore, Cox, Snead, Ward in addition to Ngakoue and Judon.

**RavensFanMania** · 04-09-2021, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

He had a pretty poor pressure rate. I'd prefer Melvin Ingram but we'll see.

I agree and would prefer Melvin Ingram. Think he is a better fit. Last year he had 0 sacks, but it was an outlier to his career where he missed multiple games. Over the last 5 years he has had 7, 7, 10.5, 8 sacks.

However if we are only comparing sacks, Houston has 8, 11, 9, 9.5 and 4 (5 games) over the last 5 years.

**BcRaven** · 04-09-2021, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Davesta

Yeah. If it’s Houston, I understand.

But I’m in the camp of wanting Clowney still. And if we risk losing out on him merely due to a 4th round comp pick security, I would be disappointed.

Can't a GM actually negotiate a contract, guaranteeing a player security, then just sign him on May 3rd? I don't know, maybe it's against the rules, but if it isn't then the problem goes away... Bc

**Shas** · 04-09-2021, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

Apparently, Houston wants to sign now. Would the Ravens give up a comp pick to make sure they got him?

I mean, if I'm the Ravens, I'm telling him if you want to sign today, the offer is $X for Y years. If you sign on May 3, the offer is $X + 20% for Y years. To be more specific I'm bumping his signing bonus significantly if he agrees to wait, and that spreads out over the length of the deal (3 years?). That's nothing from a cap perspective and everything if it means an extra fourth round pick next year.

Why does he care if he signs the deal on April 15 v. May 3? Put yourself in his shoes. Would you really say no to an extra $1 million, $5 million, whatever it takes, in you checking account if it meant waiting 3 weeks to nail it down?

Sometimes as fans I think we have anxiety over problems that are not real.