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04-08-2021, 05:15 PM #1Regular 1st Stringer
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In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
If Eric DeCosta decides to deal Orlando Brown Jr, what would you consider fair value? I and others have proposed a decent number of scenarios, with my latest tweet targeting Colts fans> https://twitter.com/GregPappasJr/sta...29862757810176
That particular trade is Brown for the Colts' 1st (#21) & 4th (#127). Thus far the reaction has been positive in a limited number of replies (37 votes), with 67% in favor.
Regardless, based on the Jimmie Johnson trade value chart ( https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp ), I feel 850 points is fair value. But, what value would you assign?
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04-08-2021, 05:20 PM #2
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If crowdsourcing Colts fans ends up favorable, then I'm certainly fine with 850 pts.
The 13th pick alone (Chargers) which has been brought up before, is 1150 JJP. I believe that will end up being too rich.
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04-08-2021, 05:31 PM #3
Re: In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
I'd be delighted with 850 JJ points. I'm glad to hear the Colts fans seem to support that.
I was expecting the offer to be around 6 - 700 points so anything more than that would be a bonus.
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04-08-2021, 05:37 PM #4Four-eyed Raven
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Re: In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
It's hard.
Orlando, and Mason Cole, were both 3rd round O-linemen in the 2018 draft. They're both full-time starters. The Vikes just acquired Cole via trade for a 6th-rd pick.
Laramy Tunsil is 26yo 2-time Pro Bowl LT. Two years ago he was involved in a blockbuster trade, where the Texans:
Tunsil hadn't made a Pro Bowl at the time of the trade; but I think the clear expectation was that he had all the tools and could be on the precipice.Got Gave Laremy Tunsil Johnson Bademosi Kenny Stills Julien Davenport 2020 4th-rounder 2020 1st-rounder 2021 6th-rounder 2021 1st-rounder 2021 2nd-rounder
The range that establishes, is ridiculous. A 6th-rounder at the low end; a package with a couple firsts at the high end. How do you find "fair", with such disparate comps as that??
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Re: In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
First round or pound sand.
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04-08-2021, 05:39 PM #6Four-eyed Raven
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Re: In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
By the way, I don't think the Ravens should trade Orlando.
Just assume, in general, if you ask me whether the Ravens should trade a 25yo two-time Pro Bowler: my answer gon be "no".
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04-08-2021, 05:39 PM #7Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
I don't think you can look at it with a point value chart. This is a player who has played limited games at LT for a very specific and unusual offense. He's going to be valued very differently depending on the team. Teams like the Seahawks and Bears who use similar blocking schemes to the Ravens would be a lot more comfortable with Brown LT and value him more because the would want him signed for the long term. Teams who use something very different such as the Patriots, Saints and Colts are taking a bit of a leap of faith that Brown will fit into their offense. Then you have the new coach staff teams like the Eagles, Lions, Jaguars and Jets. Who knows what they are looking to do?
You can't use a point value because the points are going to change depending on the team. Honestly I believe this is why Brown who had permission to seek a trade was unable to get one.
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Re: In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
I honestly think it's probably a 3rd round pick. He is going to want to get PAID after one year, so factor that in. Would rather keep him a year at RT and get that 3rd comp
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04-08-2021, 05:45 PM #10
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04-08-2021, 05:45 PM #11Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
Mason Cole is nowhere near the player Brown is, so using him in any comp is fairly useless, IMHO. Tunsil was a LT, and Brown, while having played LT in college and for the Ravens for part of the year last season, is not as established. So, I agree that it's not necessarily easy to assign a value, but it feels to me that 700 would be on the low end, and perhaps 1150 the high end for what DeCosta would settle for.
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04-08-2021, 05:47 PM #12Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: In your opinion, what is fair value for Orlando Brown Jr?
If the Colts did offer their 1st (#21) & 4th (#127), and he agreed to the Colts contract offer, I'd snap it up. Even though the Ravens have "wiggle room" (he's ours in 2021, but only for his final year prior to UFA or Franchise Tag?), so that would be a very tempting offer to me... Bc
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