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02-25-2021, 08:22 AM #169
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02-25-2021, 09:03 AM #170Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Willie Snead sounding off on Twitter
Greg Roman's scheme is just fine. It went all the way to the Super Bowl in San Francisco. Some people are attempting to the make a correlation with more passing to being better in the playoffs. There is no correlation to the passing offenses of KC and TB to the Ravens. the personnel is vastly different and the coaching staffs are vastly different. We are not going to all of the sudden have Andy Reid, Travis Kelce or Tyreek Hill walk through the door. We are also not going to have Bruce Arians, Chris Godwin or Evans walk through the door. Mahomes and Brady are far better passers than anything Lamar has shown. Ravens need to fix the Oline and Lamar needs some serious development as a passer before they start dramatically increasing the pass volume. Harbs gets paid to win games not to increase passing stats. Passing stats are great for fantasy football and fans have fallen in love with them.
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Re: Willie Snead sounding off on Twitter
I agree Hurst is gone now but at the time he was a 1st round pick spent on TE and even trading him still resulted in a weapon in JK Dobbins.
Remember this is what I disagree with:
We can agree to disagree. But, i consider drafting 1st round WR, 1st round TE, 3rd round TE, 3rd round WRx2, 2nd round RB is throwing resources at WR, TE and giving weapons to Lamar.
If you don't like the guys they drafted that a different story."Those corners...and those safeties are going to be one-on-one... and we got to make them pay for it," Harbs
"I think he’d be[Lamar] the greatest player in the history of the game,” Young said
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Re: Willie Snead sounding off on Twitter
I think you underestimate the effect the decline in OL has on the QB.
I also think you underestimate decline in QB play has on the WRs/TEs (passing game).
The WRs have experienced the least amount of change on offense from 2019 to 2020.
A WR corps of: Hollywood, Snead, Roberts, Boykin were part of the 2019 offense/passing game.
In 2019 the passing game was tops in the NFL.
Led league in passing TDs.
Tops in DVOA.
12th in YPA.
4th in 1st down%.
League MVP QB.
What changed on the OL: Loss of Yanda caused a hole at RG, loss of Stanley which forced Brown to LT which caused a hole at RT, inability of Skura to bounce back caused issues at C
What changed at TE: Loss of Hurst coupled with injury to Boyle, went from 3 top 30 TE (2 top 10) ---> 1 top 10 TE in Andrews and FB/DT filling in at TE and bunch of street TEs
Lamar- experienced a regression in his ability as rhythm drop back passer, his fundamentals and footwork were all over the place and he was missing reads, miss throws, and was more inaccurate
WRs-lost Seth Roberts and gained Duvernay and Proche
The WRs that were a part of the 2019 passing game are intact unless you consider Seth Roberts to be the straw that stirred the drink.
When you look at 2019 and 2020 adding a top tier FA WR or "true #1 WR" doesn't seem like a solution to any of the issues.
Adding a top tier FA WR or "true #1 WR" seems like addressing a perceived schematic problem that won't change anyway because Greg Roman is still the OC.
Fix the OL.
Boyle stays healthy/add 3rd TE.
Lamar bounces back to the passer he was in 2019."Those corners...and those safeties are going to be one-on-one... and we got to make them pay for it," Harbs
"I think he’d be[Lamar] the greatest player in the history of the game,” Young said
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02-25-2021, 11:38 AM #173
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02-25-2021, 11:41 AM #175
Re: Willie Snead sounding off on Twitter
Is double counting Hurst and Dobbins valid?
Those draft picks were the least they could do. When they drafted Hurst and Andrews, TE was a glaring need with only Boyle on the roster. It was the same at WR when they added Brown and Boykin. Last year the WR room still needed bodies, and they picked 2 who could double as returners. (Don't want to spend picks on the offense without getting some special teams help too.)
Excluding Hollywood at 27, those pass catchers were drafted at 86, 92, 93 and 201. Outside of Ravens world, where resources spent on the offense are a frivolous waste, that isn't a massive investment.
Looking at the AFC North, last year the Bengals had WRs and TEs that were drafted at 4, 9, 33, 52, 55: the Browns had 12, 29, 63, 72, 81 and the Steelers had 10, 49, 55, 60, 62, 66. Almost every one was taken before the Ravens preferred hunting ground of the late third round.
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02-25-2021, 11:59 AM #176
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02-25-2021, 12:10 PM #177
Re: Willie Snead sounding off on Twitter
I would never define balance to refer to play-call types. And I'm sure other people would take the definition of balance in football to offensive capability not how many different types of plays you call. Actual good offensive playcallers benefit from good execution and understanding that they should keep calling the play when it works over-and-over until the defense stops it.
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02-25-2021, 12:11 PM #178Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Willie Snead sounding off on Twitter
He's only talking about the Ravens draft picks since 2018. Whereas the picks you've mentioned for the other AFC North teams are mostly before that time. Apples to oranges.
Since 2018, the Ravens have made four 1st round picks. 3 of those 4 have been (QB, TE, WR). Their lone second round pick was on a RB. So, 4 out of 5 first or second round picks since 2018 were at offensive skill positions.Last edited by InigoMontoya; 02-25-2021 at 12:22 PM.
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02-25-2021, 12:51 PM #179Legendary RSR Poster
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