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  1. #13

    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by JimZipCode View Post
    No one is worth more than four firsts and a second.

    That kind of thinking is what gets teams in trouble (cf the Herschel Walker trade).
    Mahomes is worth a helluva lot more than 4 firsts...


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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    I don't see why you'd have to include San Francisco in that trade at all...

    If Minnesota is looking to trade Cousins for Watson, start with that. Why would Houston want Garoppolo over Cousins? I'm no Kirk Cousins fan, but he's a hell of a lot better than Jimmy Garoppolo.





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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by TL24x7 View Post
    I've never been a big fan of Peter King so maybe my outlook is a bit jaded. He's a nice enough guy and clearly has some cache in league circles but I find his takes and predictions to be a bit zany.

    Today I read his proposed trade scenarios for Deshaun Watson in his latest Football Morning in America column:



    He offers a counter proposal as well in a three-team scenario:



    Is Watson really worth either of these trades?

    I'm of the opinion that this is pure insanity.

    Thoughts?
    I'm not sure, but I don't think I can ever recall a QB of Watson's level and age being available...this is I think unprecedented. Therefore, it's really hard for me to say any of those trade suggestions are insane. It's no doubt a LOT, but I mean I think Watson is that great...give him a good defense and offensive line and that kid will win a lot of games and look great doing it IMHO.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.





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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by BearArms View Post
    The Watson is good, but until he shows he can win the big games...........
    Sounds an awful lot like Lamar doesn't it?

    And a lot of other Pro Bowl QBs over the years.
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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Mahomes is worth a helluva lot more than 4 firsts...


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    Looked kinda pedestrian with a bad OL in front of him in the Super Bowl

    Point being, I don't know if any single NFL player is worth more than 4 firsts.

    Except Tom Brady. But he's not an NFL player, he's the Son of God. Or maybe Neo.
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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan View Post
    Looked kinda pedestrian with a bad OL in front of him in the Super Bowl

    Point being, I don't know if any single NFL player is worth more than 4 firsts.

    Except Tom Brady. But he's not an NFL player, he's the Son of God. Or maybe Neo.
    Then I guess you missed my point. Itís not close, itís not terribly debatable, if he were put on the market, he might get 6 or 8 1sts in a trade offer..


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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I'm not sure, but I don't think I can ever recall a QB of Watson's level and age being available...this is I think unprecedented. Therefore, it's really hard for me to say any of those trade suggestions are insane. It's no doubt a LOT, but I mean I think Watson is that great...give him a good defense and offensive line and that kid will win a lot of games and look great doing it IMHO.
    I gave the comp of Cutler who would've been 25 at the time, same age as Watson. And he was coming off a year of over 4,500 yds and 25 TDs
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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by TL24x7 View Post
    I've never been a big fan of Peter King so maybe my outlook is a bit jaded. He's a nice enough guy and clearly has some cache in league circles but I find his takes and predictions to be a bit zany.

    Today I read his proposed trade scenarios for Deshaun Watson in his latest Football Morning in America column:



    He offers a counter proposal as well in a three-team scenario:



    Is Watson really worth either of these trades?

    I'm of the opinion that this is pure insanity.

    Thoughts?
    Watson may be possibly worth that...but Kirk Cousins sure as hell isn't.
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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Then I guess you missed my point. It’s not close, it’s not terribly debatable, if he were put on the market, he might get 6 or 8 1sts in a trade offer..


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    I've never seen anyone go for 6 firsts, even NBA superstars. So we will disagree on this.
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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Teams that give up a truckload of players/picks for one player... I mean, has it ever worked out? I can't think of an instance.
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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan View Post
    I've never seen anyone go for 6 firsts, even NBA superstars. So we will disagree on this.
    Weíve never seen Michael Jordan traded just as he was entering his prime either.


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    Re: Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by HotInHere View Post
    Teams that give up a truckload of players/picks for one player... I mean, has it ever worked out? I can't think of an instance.
    Anthony Davis. In year one anyway.

    I believe several other massive trades have paid short term dividends but it always hurts in the long run. But some people would trade that for a title.
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