Peter King's Proposed Trade ~ WTF?

**jonboy79** · 02-22-2021, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by JimZipCode

No one is worth more than four firsts and a second.

That kind of thinking is what gets teams in trouble (cf the Herschel Walker trade).

Mahomes is worth a helluva lot more than 4 firsts...

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**Doctor** · 02-22-2021, 10:35 PM

I don't see why you'd have to include San Francisco in that trade at all...

If Minnesota is looking to trade Cousins for Watson, start with that. Why would Houston want Garoppolo over Cousins? I'm no Kirk Cousins fan, but he's a hell of a lot better than Jimmy Garoppolo.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 02-23-2021, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by TL24x7

I've never been a big fan of Peter King so maybe my outlook is a bit jaded. He's a nice enough guy and clearly has some cache in league circles but I find his takes and predictions to be a bit zany.

Today I read his proposed trade scenarios for Deshaun Watson in his latest Football Morning in America column:

He offers a counter proposal as well in a three-team scenario:

Is Watson really worth either of these trades?

I'm of the opinion that this is pure insanity.

Thoughts?

I'm not sure, but I don't think I can ever recall a QB of Watson's level and age being available...this is I think unprecedented. Therefore, it's really hard for me to say any of those trade suggestions are insane. It's no doubt a LOT, but I mean I think Watson is that great...give him a good defense and offensive line and that kid will win a lot of games and look great doing it IMHO.

**WNCRavensFan** · 02-23-2021, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by BearArms

The Watson is good, but until he shows he can win the big games...........

Sounds an awful lot like Lamar doesn't it?

And a lot of other Pro Bowl QBs over the years.

**WNCRavensFan** · 02-23-2021, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

Mahomes is worth a helluva lot more than 4 firsts...

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Looked kinda pedestrian with a bad OL in front of him in the Super Bowl

Point being, I don't know if any single NFL player is worth more than 4 firsts.

Except Tom Brady. But he's not an NFL player, he's the Son of God. Or maybe Neo.

**jonboy79** · 02-23-2021, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

Looked kinda pedestrian with a bad OL in front of him in the Super Bowl

Point being, I don't know if any single NFL player is worth more than 4 firsts.

Except Tom Brady. But he's not an NFL player, he's the Son of God. Or maybe Neo.

Then I guess you missed my point. It’s not close, it’s not terribly debatable, if he were put on the market, he might get 6 or 8 1sts in a trade offer..

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**Ravenswintitle** · 02-23-2021, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

I'm not sure, but I don't think I can ever recall a QB of Watson's level and age being available...this is I think unprecedented. Therefore, it's really hard for me to say any of those trade suggestions are insane. It's no doubt a LOT, but I mean I think Watson is that great...give him a good defense and offensive line and that kid will win a lot of games and look great doing it IMHO.

I gave the comp of Cutler who would've been 25 at the time, same age as Watson. And he was coming off a year of over 4,500 yds and 25 TDs

**wickedsolo** · 02-23-2021, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by TL24x7

I've never been a big fan of Peter King so maybe my outlook is a bit jaded. He's a nice enough guy and clearly has some cache in league circles but I find his takes and predictions to be a bit zany.

Today I read his proposed trade scenarios for Deshaun Watson in his latest Football Morning in America column:

He offers a counter proposal as well in a three-team scenario:

Is Watson really worth either of these trades?

I'm of the opinion that this is pure insanity.

Thoughts?

Watson may be possibly worth that...but Kirk Cousins sure as hell isn't.

**WNCRavensFan** · 02-23-2021, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

Then I guess you missed my point. It’s not close, it’s not terribly debatable, if he were put on the market, he might get 6 or 8 1sts in a trade offer..

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I've never seen anyone go for 6 firsts, even NBA superstars. So we will disagree on this.

**HotInHere** · 02-23-2021, 09:21 AM

Teams that give up a truckload of players/picks for one player... I mean, has it ever worked out? I can't think of an instance.

**jonboy79** · 02-23-2021, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

I've never seen anyone go for 6 firsts, even NBA superstars. So we will disagree on this.

We’ve never seen Michael Jordan traded just as he was entering his prime either.

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**WNCRavensFan** · 02-23-2021, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by HotInHere

Teams that give up a truckload of players/picks for one player... I mean, has it ever worked out? I can't think of an instance.

Anthony Davis. In year one anyway.

I believe several other massive trades have paid short term dividends but it always hurts in the long run. But some people would trade that for a title.