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  1. #25

    Re: Black History

    Quote Originally Posted by owknows View Post
    Garvey was a Black Separatist and a Black Nationalist.

    By his own words
    Lol so he wanted black people to separate themselves from white folks who were lynching, abusing, and segregating them. I see nothing racist in that?

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  2. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandc View Post
    Wait, how do you know this is all true? Hearsay from a racist biased FBI led by a racist J. Edgar Hoover who made claims and allegations? Do you have visual proof of this? Audio proof of the claims you make? Any eyewitness testimony?

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    King's own associate Rev Ralph Abernathy (the man in whose arms King died) has said that it was all true.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-story.html





  3. #27

    Re: Black History

    Quote Originally Posted by bandc View Post
    Lol so he wanted black people to separate themselves from white folks who were lynching, abusing, and segregating them. I see nothing racist in that?

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    I see how the game works...

    Garvey an Openly Declared Black Separatist and Black Nationalist who said that Blacks and Whites are incompatible... Not a Racist

    Trump... who never said or did a racist thing in his life... and until he became president was considered a model of racial harmony... actually receiving awards from the black community for same... a Racist.





  4. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by owknows View Post
    King's own associate Rev Ralph Abernathy (the man in whose arms King died) has said that it was all true.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-story.html
    Lol there were four people in that article you posted who say the story he gave wasn't true at all. Who should I believe? One man who may have wanted to make a buck or 4 other people who say the story is completely inaccurate? Hmmmm...

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  5. #29

    Re: Black History

    Quote Originally Posted by owknows View Post
    I see how the game works...

    Garvey an Openly Declared Black Separatist and Black Nationalist who said that Blacks and Whites are incompatible... Not a Racist

    Trump... who never said or did a racist thing in his life... and until he became president was considered a model of racial harmony... actually receiving awards from the black community for same... a Racist.
    Lol so at that point in history, when Garvey was born in the late 1800s, he simply saw in countries all over the world like Australia, South Africa, America, etc.... that white people treated black people in an unconscionable way, and he thought that the best course of action would ironically be...for black people to go back to their own country...how is that racist?

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    Re: Black History

    Quote Originally Posted by bandc View Post
    Lol so at that point in history, when Garvey was born in the late 1800s, he simply saw in countries all over the world like Australia, South Africa, America, etc.... that white people treated black people in an unconscionable way, and he thought that the best course of action would ironically be...for black people to go back to their own country...how is that racist?

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    If I told you to “go back to your own country” how could that be anything but racist.


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  7. #31

    Re: Black History

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    If I told you to “go back to your own country” how could that be anything but racist.


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    A white man telling me to go back to my own country because he doesn't want to contribute to my civil rights is completely different than a black man asking in earnest to go back to our country of origin in order to escape lynching, segregation, and a country founded on slavery.

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  8. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandc View Post
    Lol there were four people in that article you posted who say the story he gave wasn't true at all. Who should I believe? One man who may have wanted to make a buck or 4 other people who say the story is completely inaccurate? Hmmmm...

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    If you read that article, and that was your take away, you are seriously skilled in the art of self-delusion





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    Re: Black History

    Quote Originally Posted by bandc View Post

    I disagree with what is taught in schools. I'm 27, so I was in school through the 90s and 2000s. I learned all about Plato, Da Vinci, and Edison. I learned nothing about black history besides MLK I had a dream, and that Rosa Parks at the front of the bus. That's it lol. Everything I've learned that actually meant something I've learned in my adult life.


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    If you were "in school through the 90's and 2000's" and all you learned about black history was Rosa parks and "I have a dream"................please identify what planet you were living on. I taught 35 years from 1978-2013 in every imaginable demographic setting and in every scenario was BESIEGED with my Crispus Attucks analogy that apparently went over your head.





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    Re: Black History

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOrioleWay View Post
    If you were "in school through the 90's and 2000's" and all you learned about black history was Rosa parks and "I have a dream"................please identify what planet you were living on. I taught 35 years from 1978-2013 in every imaginable demographic setting and in every scenario was BESIEGED with my Crispus Attucks analogy that apparently went over your head.
    Yea, I went to school in the 80’s and 90’s and I specifically recall learning quite a bit more than just King and Parks.

    Harriet Tubman was a big one, although I went to school on the eastern shore, so that could be why.

    Douglas was another.


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    Re: Black History

    Quote Originally Posted by bandc View Post
    I agree and disagree with this post. I completely and fully agree that people like Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell are necessary in the teaching of black history. History MUST be taught in full, and to act like there weren't prominent, successful and important black conservatives is a disservice to everyone.

    I disagree with what is taught in schools. I'm 27, so I was in school through the 90s and 2000s. I learned all about Plato, Da Vinci, and Edison. I learned nothing about black history besides MLK I had a dream, and that Rosa Parks at the front of the bus. That's it lol. Everything I've learned that actually meant something I've learned in my adult life.

    Third, I also disagree/agree that MLK would be appalled. He would be saddened that the first black president continued along the white moderate path that has killed people for so long. He would be happy that democratic socialism is making a slow but sure comeback

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    Graduated in 04 and that plus fire hoses were about the extent of what I remember learning with regards to black history, specifically civil rights.

    To the points of others, we did definitely learn about the underground railroad and abolitionists at well.

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  12. #36

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    Rosa Parks was a big deal in my elementary years, but I grew up in Montgomery, Al so she's a local hero. Learned about King, Tubman, etc... Really loved Carver since he saved southern Alabama's economy.

    And we didn't learn about them in one month. They were scattered throughout Alabama history, which we had to take in fourth grade and later in 10th.
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