Cap will be at least 180M

**Brtnder81** · 02-20-2021, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by stevez51

If you go to Over the Cap site it's showing as dead cap.

No it's not, it doesn't have anything accounted for about the ET grievance. None of it has been charged to the cap.

**Corvus Corax** · 02-20-2021, 08:27 PM

Taking a step back for a moment, wouldn’t it be nice if your boss announces at the annual budget meeting, “Sorry folks, this year’s payroll cannot exceed 180 million dollars.” and there’s only 53 employees?

**RevBarnes** · 02-20-2021, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Brtnder81

No it's not, it doesn't have anything accounted for about the ET grievance. None of it has been charged to the cap.

So you are saying we have $10 in dead cap and could get $10 million more depending on the grievance outcome?

**camdenyard** · 02-20-2021, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by RevBarnes

So you are saying we have $10 in dead cap and could get $10 million more depending on the grievance outcome?

Correct.

**Brtnder81** · 02-21-2021, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by RevBarnes

So you are saying we have $10 in dead cap and could get $10 million more depending on the grievance outcome?

Yes, the only thing currently on our cap for ET is the proration of his signing bonus from the last 2 years of his contract.

**stevez51** · 02-21-2021, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Brtnder81

Yes, the only thing currently on our cap for ET is the proration of his signing bonus from the last 2 years of his contract.

That's the money they are fighting over.

**BcRaven** · 02-21-2021, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Corvus Corax

Taking a step back for a moment, wouldn’t it be nice if your boss announces at the annual budget meeting, “Sorry folks, this year’s payroll cannot exceed 180 million dollars.” and there’s only 53 employees?

Yes C C, in our work-a-day world it would be. However, since it "only" divides into approx. $3.4 mil. per player, the stars would not appreciate taking such a drastic cut in pay... Bc

**GOTA** · 02-21-2021, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by RevBarnes

So you are saying we have $10 in dead cap and could get $10 million more depending on the grievance outcome?

They had a $5 million hit to the cap last year and there will be a $5 million hit this year. If the Ravens win they will get all $10 million back. If they lose then it’s $5 million against 2021 since they already took the other $5 million hit in 2020.

Honestly I can’t see how the Ravens are going to prove that Thomas violated his contract but we only know what was reported. The basis is the domestic dispute and training camp fight but Thomas was not suspended by the NFL for either. It’s going to depend on how a judge determines detrimental conduct.

**Pshawww** · 02-21-2021, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

They had a $5 million hit to the cap last year and there will be a $5 million hit this year. If the Ravens win they will get all $10 million back. If they lose then it’s $5 million against 2021 since they already took the other $5 million hit in 2020.

Honestly I can’t see how the Ravens are going to prove that Thomas violated his contract but we only know what was reported. The basis is the domestic dispute and training camp fight but Thomas was not suspended by the NFL for either. It’s going to depend on how a judge determines detrimental conduct.

Isn’t there also the posting practice film footage to the internet ?

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 02-21-2021, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

They had a $5 million hit to the cap last year and there will be a $5 million hit this year. If the Ravens win they will get all $10 million back. If they lose then it’s $5 million against 2021 since they already took the other $5 million hit in 2020.

Honestly I can’t see how the Ravens are going to prove that Thomas violated his contract but we only know what was reported. The basis is the domestic dispute and training camp fight but Thomas was not suspended by the NFL for either. It’s going to depend on how a judge determines detrimental conduct.

I don't think that is correct. This grievance isn't over any bonus money, it's over his $10 million guaranteed base salary. The bonus proration hits will always hit no matter what.

Brian McFarland posted an article a day or 2 ago about this. Instead of the cap typically getting hit with the 40% of the disputed guarantee as soon as the grievance is filed, with the remaining 60% being in limbo until the ruling, it seems nothing was impacted when it was filed. So the full $10 million of that base salary is in limbo until the ruling. Basically, there will be no credit at all if we win, but if we lose, we will be hit with the full $10 million.

I don't see how we can be a significant UFA player with that money hanging out there.

**Twitch11** · 02-21-2021, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

They had a $5 million hit to the cap last year and there will be a $5 million hit this year. If the Ravens win they will get all $10 million back. If they lose then it’s $5 million against 2021 since they already took the other $5 million hit in 2020.

Honestly I can’t see how the Ravens are going to prove that Thomas violated his contract but we only know what was reported. The basis is the domestic dispute and training camp fight but Thomas was not suspended by the NFL for either. It’s going to depend on how a judge determines detrimental conduct.

I don't think that is correct. There was an article stating that they Ravens have not been hit with the 10m charge that will result if they lose. The only thing showing up right now is the proration of the signing bonus. The 10m was guaranteed salary. Typically during a dispute 5m will be hitting the cap until the resolution. The article pointed out how it was odd that this has not happened in this case. The net net of the article is that if the Ravens lose they will lose an additional 10m of cap space.