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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by pickles View Post
    Well we have fraudulent elections and criminal usurpers in the highest offices of the land.

    I'd say it's already started.
    Exercising your rights to free speech and Alleging fraudulent elections, doesn’t make them so.

    So many allegations of voter fraud and the only one I have seen with any merit, is that observers weren’t present in 1 county in 1 state for ~5 hours. That proves that the local official broke the law by counting votes BUT not that the vote count they produced was wrong. After a recount, the vote count was ruled correct. IF you rule that those votes are ineligible, then what is to stop a county officials from deliberately breaking the law to get votes thrown out all over the country? IF you rule that the States result needs to be overturned, what is to prevent this from occurring all over the country?

    Basically, the remedy you want as a result of your allegations is to throw out the votes from the majority of voters....





  2. #170

    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Do you know how to boil a frog alive?
    So you feel like a frog about to be boiled?





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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleG View Post
    So you feel like a frog about to be boiled?
    If that’s what you took away from it...





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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleG View Post
    Exercising your rights to free speech and Alleging fraudulent elections, doesn’t make them so.

    So many allegations of voter fraud and the only one I have seen with any merit, is that observers weren’t present in 1 county in 1 state for ~5 hours. That proves that the local official broke the law by counting votes BUT not that the vote count they produced was wrong. After a recount, the vote count was ruled correct. IF you rule that those votes are ineligible, then what is to stop a county officials from deliberately breaking the law to get votes thrown out all over the country? IF you rule that the States result needs to be overturned, what is to prevent this from occurring all over the country?

    Basically, the remedy you want as a result of your allegations is to throw out the votes from the majority of voters....
    The evidence of potential fraud is overwhelming.

    • Over 5000 sworn affidavits of complaints ranging from poll observers being kept too far to reasonably challenge mail ballots for signatures, dates, return addresses, duplicates, etc.
    • Video footage of a van entering TCF Center unloading boxes, back by witness affidavits which coincided with bizarre vote spikes on FiveThirtyEight graphs with Biden getting a vertical blue line to overtake Trump
    • Ballot rejection rate in Georgia massively lower than in previous elections
    • Video of poll workers sneaking boxes of ballots from under tablecloths and running them through the counting machines multiple times, after a water main break that turned out to be a leaky toilet
    • Live CNN and MSNBC vote updates showing tens of thousands of votes flipping from Trump to Biden, plus Antrim County Michigan showing an entire election flipped and later overturned due to an unspecified human error
    • Video footage of poll observers being blocked by sheets of cardboard in Detroit


    That's just the evidence of fraud. That's not even getting into the evidence of anomalies, such as:

    • Trump winning all bellwether states and 18 of the 19 bellwether counties yet miraculously losing the election
    • Down-ballot Republicans winning all 27 of the New York Times' House toss-up races, despite very little split-ticket voting otherwise
    • GOP adding 45, 27, 7 and 6 state seats over Democrats in states Biden supposedly "won" (GA, PA, MI & AZ respectively)


    If that weren't bad enough, it was obvious Biden wasn't popular before the election. For one he wasn't the front-runner in the primaries, Bernie was, so the Dems had to withdraw Pete, Klobuchar, Harris before the caucus and primary elections to galvanize the centrist Democrat support behind Biden to defeat Bernie. Biden's running mate also wasn't popular, after an early jump in polls, she never made it out of single digits after she was kneecapped by Tulsi on her prosecutorial record. Plus the obvious difference in rally crowd size. Dems want to pass this off on Covid but deep down there wasn't much enthusiasm behind a guy who'd been in politics for 5 decades. Even his campaign van was chased out of Texas by a throng of MAGA truckers; you didn't see that level of enthusiasm from the left.

    Trump clearly shellacked Biden in the election, and if not for a handful of precincts in key swing states, it would have been a resounding GOP bloodbath.





  5. #173

    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleG View Post
    Basically, the remedy you want as a result of your allegations is to throw out the votes from the majority of voters....
    That seems to basically be it honestly.





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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack View Post
    The evidence of potential fraud is overwhelming.

    • Over 5000 sworn affidavits of complaints ranging from poll observers being kept too far to reasonably challenge mail ballots for signatures, dates, return addresses, duplicates, etc.
    • Video footage of a van entering TCF Center unloading boxes, back by witness affidavits which coincided with bizarre vote spikes on FiveThirtyEight graphs with Biden getting a vertical blue line to overtake Trump
    • Ballot rejection rate in Georgia massively lower than in previous elections
    • Video of poll workers sneaking boxes of ballots from under tablecloths and running them through the counting machines multiple times, after a water main break that turned out to be a leaky toilet
    • Live CNN and MSNBC vote updates showing tens of thousands of votes flipping from Trump to Biden, plus Antrim County Michigan showing an entire election flipped and later overturned due to an unspecified human error
    • Video footage of poll observers being blocked by sheets of cardboard in Detroit


    That's just the evidence of fraud. That's not even getting into the evidence of anomalies, such as:

    • Trump winning all bellwether states and 18 of the 19 bellwether counties yet miraculously losing the election
    • Down-ballot Republicans winning all 27 of the New York Times' House toss-up races, despite very little split-ticket voting otherwise
    • GOP adding 45, 27, 7 and 6 state seats over Democrats in states Biden supposedly "won" (GA, PA, MI & AZ respectively)


    If that weren't bad enough, it was obvious Biden wasn't popular before the election. For one he wasn't the front-runner in the primaries, Bernie was, so the Dems had to withdraw Pete, Klobuchar, Harris before the caucus and primary elections to galvanize the centrist Democrat support behind Biden to defeat Bernie. Biden's running mate also wasn't popular, after an early jump in polls, she never made it out of single digits after she was kneecapped by Tulsi on her prosecutorial record. Plus the obvious difference in rally crowd size. Dems want to pass this off on Covid but deep down there wasn't much enthusiasm behind a guy who'd been in politics for 5 decades. Even his campaign van was chased out of Texas by a throng of MAGA truckers; you didn't see that level of enthusiasm from the left.

    Trump clearly shellacked Biden in the election, and if not for a handful of precincts in key swing states, it would have been a resounding GOP bloodbath.
    Stop it. There is no evidence of voter fraud. I mean no evidence of widespread fraud. I mean no evidence of widespread fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election.





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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Stop it. There is no evidence of voter fraud. I mean no evidence of widespread fraud. I mean no evidence of widespread fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election.

    There is voter fraud in every election so no one could say there isn't any voter fraud. What they want to see is massive voter fraud. Instead we got select voter fraud in states that would decide the election. Both sides knew the safe states they had. It was the close ones they needed.





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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by stevez51 View Post
    There is voter fraud in every election so no one could say there isn't any voter fraud. What they want to see is massive voter fraud. Instead we got select voter fraud in states that would decide the election. Both sides knew the safe states they had. It was the close ones they needed.
    Why would any one commit voter fraud it it didn't make a difference?





  9. #177

    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack View Post
    The evidence of potential fraud is overwhelming.

    • Over 5000 sworn affidavits of complaints ranging from poll observers being kept too far to reasonably challenge mail ballots for signatures, dates, return addresses, duplicates, etc.

      LG> Many of those affidavits were from poll watchers who didn’t attend pre-election briefings and who had no idea what they were going to be doing.

    • Video footage of a van entering TCF Center unloading boxes, back by witness affidavits which coincided with bizarre vote spikes on FiveThirtyEight graphs with Biden getting a vertical blue line to overtake Trump

      LG> It takes hours to count votes.... a van turning up after collecting votes from vote drop boxes, isn’t conclusive evidence.

    • Ballot rejection rate in Georgia massively lower than in previous elections

      LG> When you have a vast amount of new voters, their signatures match at a higher rate. Many new voters also ask others for help filling in votes and this results in a lower rejection rate.

    • Video of poll workers sneaking boxes of ballots from under tablecloths and running them through the counting machines multiple times, after a water main break that turned out to be a leaky toilet

      LG> Fulton county. Watch the full video OR 60 minutes interview. You may learn about voting processes....

    • Live CNN and MSNBC vote updates showing tens of thousands of votes flipping from Trump to Biden, plus Antrim County Michigan showing an entire election flipped and later overturned due to an unspecified human error

      LG> The county hadn’t loaded the correct software that will record down votes correctly. Machines need to be updated to match each elections voting forms. Ballots change every year, so using the wrong years format will cause errors. Software was updated, votes were rescanned and then the count matched a hand recount.

    • Video footage of poll observers being blocked by sheets of cardboard in Detroit


    That's just the evidence of fraud. That's not even getting into the evidence of anomalies, such as:

    • Trump winning all bellwether states and 18 of the 19 bellwether counties yet miraculously losing the election

      LG> Bell weather seats mean very little, when you have a large increase of votes. An actual better measure is voter participation rate.

    • Down-ballot Republicans winning all 27 of the New York Times' House toss-up races, despite very little split-ticket voting otherwise

      LG> Seats are from geographical areas and don’t represent entire states. You do understand that city seats have more voters and Dems winning 90% of the vote doesn’t get them an extra house seat.

    • GOP adding 45, 27, 7 and 6 state seats over Democrats in states Biden supposedly "won" (GA, PA, MI & AZ respectively)

      LG> Again not evidence of anything but that cities voted overwhelmingly against Trump. See previous entry.



    If that weren't bad enough, it was obvious Biden wasn't popular before the election. For one he wasn't the front-runner in the primaries, Bernie was, so the Dems had to withdraw Pete, Klobuchar, Harris before the caucus and primary elections to galvanize the centrist Democrat support behind Biden to defeat Bernie. Biden's running mate also wasn't popular, after an early jump in polls, she never made it out of single digits after she was kneecapped by Tulsi on her prosecutorial record. Plus the obvious difference in rally crowd size. Dems want to pass this off on Covid but deep down there wasn't much enthusiasm behind a guy who'd been in politics for 5 decades.

    LG> The vote wasn’t for Biden, it was anti-Trump and pro-democracy. I think it could have been anyone on that ticket and they beat Trump.


    Even his campaign van was chased out of Texas by a throng of MAGA truckers; you didn't see that level of enthusiasm from the left.

    LG> highlighting clearly illegal activity of intimidation of your political opponents as a sign of enthusiasm.... Trump created the anyone-but-Trump voting block.... the more he spoke, the more enthusiasm people got to vote.


    Trump clearly shellacked Biden in the election, and if not for a handful of precincts in key swing states, it would have been a resounding GOP bloodbath.

    LG> so you want to ignore the half of America that votes Democratic. Only Swing states & red state voters count.

    .

    I have made some notes above.


    Repeating allegations doesn’t make them fact.





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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleG View Post
    Exercising your rights to free speech and Alleging fraudulent elections, doesn’t make them so.

    So many allegations of voter fraud and the only one I have seen with any merit, is that observers weren’t present in 1 county in 1 state for ~5 hours. That proves that the local official broke the law by counting votes BUT not that the vote count they produced was wrong. After a recount, the vote count was ruled correct. IF you rule that those votes are ineligible, then what is to stop a county officials from deliberately breaking the law to get votes thrown out all over the country? IF you rule that the States result needs to be overturned, what is to prevent this from occurring all over the country?

    Basically, the remedy you want as a result of your allegations is to throw out the votes from the majority of voters....
    No, it's not complicated. You try to make it as such because you have an indefensible position.

    Votes cast legally should be counted.

    Votes cast illegally should not be counted.

    It's not fucking rocket science.

    Voter integrity doesn't equal voter suppression.

    No matter how many times you and your Marxist masters try to equate the two.

    And I'll add: Keep pushing this bullshit. Push it every election. You're going to get yourself a war. And it will all be on your head.





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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    One thing I’ll say, if Trump used the EO to the same degree that Biden has been using it, the media and Democrats would have lost their shit. Like REALLY lost their shit.

    Hypocrisy at its finest.


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    Re: 1-21-21. The start of a new dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post

    Hypocrisy at its finest.
    What is politics?





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