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01-18-2021, 09:00 PM #25Hall Of Fame Poster
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Just finished watching this.
Pretty damning stuff from an outside perspective that knows what they are talking about. As much as some of you want to blame the WR’s and the play design/scheme, most of the plays have guys open.
He was pretty harsh on Lamars play and it was completely justified.
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01-18-2021, 09:04 PM #26Pro Bowl Poster
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Yep, really great vid. Some of the play design from a structural standpoint is rough but some of it was very good vs what we were facing. The one that really stood out to me was the cross by Hollywood and the Double Post going the other way, the first post got behind Tre White and Lamar NEVER saw it and like he said in the video, we came back to the play again, and it was open AGAIN and Lamar never saw it.
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If you are a coordinator and you see that your QB is reacting that way over and over, are you going to keep running the same play expecting a different result? Or are you going to recognize that he's seeing things differently and try another way to work through it?
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01-18-2021, 09:33 PM #28Pro Bowl Poster
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Well this is where the communication from the sideline has come in and tell Lamar, we are coming back to this, but look at X player first next time. "They are giving us that." So, the communication from the sideline has to tell Lamar that. Who is he talking with on the sideline? They have to inform him and coach him up. So yes, you call the play because the defense is giving you that, but your assistants on the sideline has to inform your QB of what to look at and the HE HAS TO EXECUTE it. Bottom line. Yes some of the play designs are a mess. But on the ones that are not, Lamar is not living well in the drop back game.
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01-18-2021, 09:49 PM #29
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Lamar is one of the greatest ATHLETES that have ever played in the NFL. At the moment, he need sto grow a bit to be a great QB.
Not much really matters, and the rest doesn't matter at all.
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01-18-2021, 09:54 PM #30Pro Bowl Poster
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Seems like he regressed this season in terms of mechanics. Saw a lot more of the sidearm throws than last season and more passes like in the Tennessee game where he just throws them up and they either get picked or dropped by the DB.
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01-18-2021, 09:58 PM #31Pro Bowl Poster
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And I’m not even saying that Lamar does not have these issues. But it’s one thing for us to generally recognize that and say that. Say that he needs to improve upon these things. How does the team actually make that happen? They only throw about twenty times a game, the majority of their practice time is put toward their run schemes. They have a pass coordinator who has not made much of a visible difference at all. They do very little to help him get into a rhythm early in games. They don’t go up tempo enough. The only reason teams even bother with playing zone against us is, because of Lamar’s running ability. Otherwise, they’d play man all day and we have no one to consistently get open against Man.
This is not just a matter of him working with Jordan Palmer all of a sudden and because of that alone, the next time we’re in the playoffs he’ll look significantly better.
As LC said, a huge makeover is needed.
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01-18-2021, 10:24 PM #33Pro Bowl Poster
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The recurring theme about the lack of an Rb outlet is a great example. Is it the Rb coach? Is it the play design? Is it Lamar not finding it or just ignoring it? Is it the Qb Coach not drilling it enough? Is Lamar ignoring the coach because he figures he can dodge the rush and make a play that's better than a 4 yard checks down?
How many negative drive killing plays could have been avoided if we incorporated our Rb into the passing game more?
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01-18-2021, 10:33 PM #34
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On like the 3rd one where Boykin is going down the middle. If he turns that out he is wide open. But he keeps running into dbl coverage. The WR has to see that. Dez would have broke off that route.
Ah nevermind until we see what the Biscuit does with coaching I am just going to go hide. lmao
Not bad for a RUNNING BACK!!! Now that is funny.
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01-18-2021, 11:07 PM #35
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Agreed & big thanks to Justlovemybirds for posting.
We simply have to make our offense more qb-pass friendly.
Roman needs help because Lamar needs help. As Hollywood & Willie both said, this offseason is going to be huge. He has to tighten up his mechanics again & he needs a commitment to him as a passer coming from the OC/organization.
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01-18-2021, 11:23 PM #36
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I'm thinking the restrictions on off season workouts with the team is a contributor to Lamar's shakier mechanics we saw this past season. Also I think Patrick Mahomes getting praised for his off balance and side armed throws is rubbing off on other QBs.
There is only one Mahomes in the NFL and just about every other QB is going to run into trouble making those circus throws.
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