A Contract with Black America

[Vlad the lad]

Yes.. And it's because of the second paragraph that I wrote.

Here is the difference. I can admit the mainstream Dems aren't doing nothing. And I can also admit Trumpism and the damage I feel it's doing. Then I make a calculation. What is upsetting me most. For me it's what is going on now and what I feel best to change it. And for me, it's voting for Biden.

On the other hand, Trump tweets conspiracy Bin Laden theories, says 75% of people who wear masks get the virus...and every excuse possible will be formulated about what he meant. Or how a principled conservative like Ben Sasse is all of a sudden unprincipled because he dared to say something about Trump. Excuse after excuse. If some of you really thoughtful and smart guys call a spade a spade...I think it would break the log jam. At least the log jam in my mind.

For instance, you could say, I love Trump's tax policy, but he needed to stop down playing the virus giving his followers a false sense of security. Then when he admits he was doing as such on tape...then say that was effed up. Instead, people bend themselves in pretzels to toe the line, justifying what he says and his actions

Or, say I think Trump is really putting America first..but he may have miscalculated the effects his trade policy would have on our farmers. Instead...rather than being balanced, it's statements that it's better than it ever has been before.

I don't read all the posts and could be wrong. But you could say that I agree with Trump that we should protect our elections..but also say that him saying the election will be rigged if I lose, that the presidency will be stolen from him, and the wide array of comments in this regards does damage to our democracy.

Balance. Trump does plenty wrong. He's convinced his followers he does nothing wrong. He is the victim. Which is the biggest hypocrisy of all of this. This victimhood narrative that is discussed, meanwhile the president is the biggest so called victim of them all.



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Oh geeze. Let’s try to go one by one

The best change for this country is Biden. Many believe he is the root cause for the division in this country. It was the Obama Biden admin that failed to accept the last election result. They dug in deep and spied on the Trump campaign. Then they made up a fake scandal and divided the country with false allegations that Trump was a Russian. Biden should be in jail for this.

I don’t know the Bin Laden conspiracy. But as stated above, you had no issue with the Russia conspiracy
75% of the people that got the virus, wore masks. They is from the CDC report. Just look at Kamlia and her staff. They always have a mask on, and staff still got it. This virus is way over blown. 86% of those that test positive, never show symptoms. Just with that information, we can conclude that thousands had the virus, never had symptoms, and never got tested. So the percentage that get the virus and never show symptoms will be much higher

He didn’t downplay the virus. He was honest. This virus is not impacting 99% of the population. 7 months in, and less than 10 million infected. Compare that to the swim flu, we had 60 million infected. We will never know how many people does FROM covid, because most does from something else, but tested positive for covid
He might not be perfect on trade. It he is better than anyone in the past recent history. And I will take his approach over the Obama Biden approach. But then again, Biden seems to be tight with China.

You have a problem with trump questioning an election, you should be livid with Biden. He corrupted the election process the way he and Obama handled the past election. And let’s not forget, so far, we only have Democrats on record for saying they will not concede defeat no matter what

No one elver said trump doesn’t do anything wrong. We do one say the left and the media think trump is the cause of everything wrong, when in fact, it’s the complete opposite

[owknows]

Here is the difference. I can admit the mainstream Dems aren't doing nothing. And I can also admit Trumpism and the damage I feel it's doing. Then I make a calculation. What is upsetting me most. For me it's what is going on now and what I feel best to change it. And for me, it's voting for Biden.

On the other hand, Trump tweets conspiracy Bin Laden theories, says 75% of people who wear masks get the virus...and every excuse possible will be formulated about what he meant. Or how a principled conservative like Ben Sasse is all of a sudden unprincipled because he dared to say something about Trump. Excuse after excuse. If some of you really thoughtful and smart guys call a spade a spade...I think it would break the log jam. At least the log jam in my mind.

For instance, you could say, I love Trump's tax policy, but he needed to stop down playing the virus giving his followers a false sense of security. Then when he admits he was doing as such on tape...then say that was effed up. Instead, people bend themselves in pretzels to toe the line, justifying what he says and his actions

Or, say I think Trump is really putting America first..but he may have miscalculated the effects his trade policy would have on our farmers. Instead...rather than being balanced, it's statements that it's better than it ever has been before.

I don't read all the posts and could be wrong. But you could say that I agree with Trump that we should protect our elections..but also say that him saying the election will be rigged if I lose, that the presidency will be stolen from him, and the wide array of comments in this regards does damage to our democracy.

Balance. Trump does plenty wrong. He's convinced his followers he does nothing wrong. He is the victim. Which is the biggest hypocrisy of all of this. This victimhood narrative that is discussed, meanwhile the president is the biggest so called victim of them all.



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Thanks for a sincere response.

I think you're an honest guy, and that we could probably sit down and find a lot of common ground.. and some things we disagree about profoundly. I've think we've both been a little bombastic at times, but generally I think there's a mutual respect. And that's a hopeful sign to me. That two guys on such vastly different sides of the chasm can still communicate.

A lot of the things you cite as concerns about Trump, are some of the few things I consider worth supporting him for. I generally favor low taxes.. minimal regulation.. a climate that encourages business, etc. If I have characterized your position well, I think you do too.

But you cite Trump's character flaws and his egocentricity, and his twitter compulsion, and his feuds with guys like Sasse (who I consider a doofus) to be reasons not to support him. I don't care about any of these things.

There's a very real culture war going on in this country. And it isn't accidental or incidental. It is designed. It's intent is to destroy the last remain hope for individual liberty on the face of the planet, and to replace it with socialist serfdom. It's methods are manufactured social strife,instigation of class, racial and gender division. And offering solutions that will only further divide.

Guys like me (in spite of your assertion to the contrary) don't see Trump as an idol. We don't even see him as a good tool to resist this coming war. But he isn't advocating policies that will hasten our demise.. and insofar as he resists the coming tide at all, however poorly, he'll have my support because the alternative is too bleak to think about.

You have chosen to support what I consider to be the instrument of our national demise.. not because of policy, but because the purveyor of the opposite policy rubs you the wrong way. He rubs me the wrong way too. He makes me cringe more than half the time he speaks. But he's willing to do the dirty work that needs to be done, and that's good enough for me right now.

One way or the other, this is all very likely to end up on with people on the opposite sides of very real battle lines. And it makes me sad to think that there will be people like us on either side of it.

[Ranger]

If Blamericans would raise their own children, 90% of their problems would go away.

Is there anything in the bill about that?

The last one, number 13 eluded to it. I can’t tell you what to do but it takes less than 5 minutes to read it all. Now a lot of it is a load of shit for sure, but there were some legitimate things in there as well, and he acknowledges in the last one there are a lot of things the black community needs to fix.

[pickles]

The last one, number 13 eluded to it. I can’t tell you what to do but it takes less than 5 minutes to read it all. Now a lot of it is a load of shit for sure, but there were some legitimate things in there as well, and he acknowledges in the last one there are a lot of things the black community needs to fix.

I'll continue reading it but it takes a lot more than 5 minutes to read the full 22 page contract.

I spent about 5 minutes and got about 5 pages in.

So far it is just more of the same affirmative action handout shit we've been doing for 60 years. Tell me, how is doing more of the same, going to change anything?

[bandc]

Once Trump leaves office, I think the GOP has a real opportunity to pull in support from us black folks. Their messenger has to be someone with empathy, genuiness, and understanding. I think the cat is out of the bag with the mainstream democratic party. Same ole same ole.

It's either the non Trump brainwashed GOP or the more left of the party. Like the young bloods who are winning these congressional seats.

I say I could be down with Blexit...but not to join up with the party of Trump and his legion of jock riders in Congress. If they modify that part, it would be something to consider.

With that said, Biden is my choice for now, because he is the only one who can provide what I want most. A chance to get this guy out.



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The republicans can get my vote if they let Bernard Sanders or Andrew Yang lead the Party lol

[bandc]

Thanks for a sincere response.

I think you're an honest guy, and that we could probably sit down and find a lot of common ground.. and some things we disagree about profoundly. I've think we've both been a little bombastic at times, but generally I think there's a mutual respect. And that's a hopeful sign to me. That two guys on such vastly different sides of the chasm can still communicate.

Al lot of the things you cite as concerns about Trump, are some of the few things I consider worth supporting him for. I generally favor low taxes.. minimal regulation.. a climate that encourages business, etc. If I have characterized your position well, I think you do too.

But you cite Trump's character flaws and his egocentricity, and his twitter compulsion, and his feuds with guys like Sasse (who I consider a doofus) to be reasons not to support him. I don't care about any of these things.

There's a very real culture war going on in this country. And it isn't accidental or incidental. It is designed. It's intent is to destroy the last remain hope for individual liberty on the face of the planet, and to replace it with socialist serfdom. It's methods are manufactured social strife,instigation of class, racial and gender division. And offering solutions that will only further divide.

Guys like me (in spite of your assertion to the contrary) don't see Trump as an idol. We don't even see him as a good tool to resist this coming war. But he isn't advocating policies that will hasten our demise.. and insofar as he resists the coming tide at all, however poorly, he'll have my support because the alternative is too bleak to think about.

You have chosen to support what I consider to be the instrument of our national demise.. not because of policy, but because the purveyor of the opposite policy rubs you the wrong way. He rubs me the wrong way too. He makes me cringe more than half the time he speaks. But he's willing to do the dirty work that needs to be done, and that's good enough for me right now.

One way or the other, this is all very likely to end up on with people on the opposite sides of very real battle lines. And it makes me said to think that there will be people like us on either side of it.

this whole post....lolololol....sensational

[bandc]

Lol idk how some of yall believe the USA is the last bastion of Liberty, but yet we are ranked pretty averagely to slightly above average in social mobility. There are plenty of countries where you have way more freedom.

[pickles]

Lol idk how some of yall believe the USA is the last bastion of Liberty, but yet we are ranked pretty averagely to slightly above average in social mobility. There are plenty of countries where you have way more freedom.

Such as?

[owknows]

this whole post....lolololol....sensational

I'm sure it appears sensational to some.

There are an awful lot of people in this country though, who swore an oath to preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

And they view socialism and communism as antithetical to, and incompatible with the Constitution of the United States. And will not tolerate it here. Whether voted for or not.

They don't see this country as a mob-rule democracy. But as the Constitutionally Limited Republic administered by democratic means. And the Constitution limits the functions of the federal government to specifically enumerated powers, and absolutely prohibits federal usurpation of the rights of individuals. And socialism and communism absolutely require the usurpation of the rights of individuals.

So you may see this all as funny. A cause to laugh out loud. But I would suggest that this is a miscalculation on your part.

[owknows]

Lol idk how some of yall believe the USA is the last bastion of Liberty, but yet we are ranked pretty averagely to slightly above average in social mobility. There are plenty of countries where you have way more freedom.

I really don't find the rankings of liberty in the United States compiled by European Socialists to be all that meaningful.

Nor do I suggest that the erosion of liberty already happening in the US isn't alarming in it's own right.

As your post suggests... a reset is overdue.

[bandc]

I'm sure it appears sensational to some.

There are an awful lot of people in this country though, who swore an oath to preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

And they view socialism and communism as antithetical to, and incompatible with the Constitution of the United States. And will not tolerate it here. Whether voted for or not.

They don't see this country as a mob-rule democracy. But as the Constitutionally Limited Republic administered by democratic means. And the Constitution limits the functions of the federal government to specifically enumerated powers, and absolutely prohibits federal usurpation of the rights of individuals. And socialism and communism absolutely require the usurpation of the rights of individuals.

So you may see this all as funny. A cause to laugh out loud. But I would suggest that this is a miscalculation on your part.

The thing is, LITERALLY every advancement that we have made as a country is due to socialism! If you break it down to two things: 1. Roads 2. Education. We would not be where we are as a country if we decided not to come together and socialize those two things. It's crazy how often y'all dismiss the greatness that socialism has brought us.

[pickles]

The thing is, LITERALLY every advancement that we have made as a country is due to socialism! If you break it down to two things: 1. Roads 2. Education. We would not be where we are as a country if we decided not to come together and socialize those two things. It's crazy how often y'all dismiss the greatness that socialism has brought us.

Jesus, you don't uderstand anything. Even the words you use.

It explains your political positions.