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Re: Realistic trade targets
Will Fuller maybe but I think Houston would be crazy to trade another one of Watsons receivers. That said he’s in last year of his contract and not sure how bad Houston wants to pay for such an injury prone player
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10-11-2020, 11:02 PM #14Hall Of Fame Poster
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10-11-2020, 11:03 PM #15
Re: Realistic trade targets
Tough to say, best right now is possibly Kerrigan.
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10-11-2020, 11:12 PM #16
Re: Realistic trade targets
Realistic would be someone that's getting paid, or is about to, on a team that's already on to next season.
Someone like Marvin Jones from Detroit or Golden Tate from New York. Maybe Westbrook or Cole from Jacksonville. I can't think of many more - none of the bad teams have good WRs they're going to let go.
Ionidis or Kerrigan from Football team or literally any TE 2 in the league would also fit the bill.
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10-11-2020, 11:13 PM #18
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In order to define "realistic" there needs to be a few factors (with the assumption that the Ravens would trade for a player that would make the team better):
1. The player can actually fit in the Ravens cap at the trade deadline which effectively rules out JJ Watt, Ryan Kerrigan, and Julio Jones.
2. The player should be a position that the Ravens could upgrade at like OG, S, WR, OLB/DE.
3. There needs to be a reason that the team would trade them whether that be that the team is unable to contend with their current roster or they have a horrendous cap situation looming. Think teams like Saints, Eagles, Falcons, Rams for bad cap situations and Jags, Jets, WFT for unable to contend.
4. They can't be in the same division/also in AFC in running for the SB. Which rules out teams like the Steelers, Browns, Bengals, Chiefs, Patriots, Titans, etc...
Where does that leave us:
WR:
Michael Thomas- Base salary 1 mil on Saints (bad cap) and can fit in Ravens cap situation and fills a need.
DJ Chark- Base salary 880k on Jags (bad team) and can fit in Ravens cap situation and fills a need.
Jameson Crowder- Base salary 8.5 mil (reduced by 5/16ths to ~6mil) on Jets (bad team) and again fits in Ravens cap (barely).
Alshon Jeffrey- Base salary 9.9 mil (reduced by 5/16ths to ~7mil) on Eagles (bad cap)
DeSean Jackson- Base salary 6.2 mil on Eagles (bad cap)
OLB/DE:
Brandon Graham- Base salary 1.3 mil on Eagles
Derek Barnett- Base salary 2.2 mil on Eagles
Ryan Anderson- Base salary 1.1 mil on WFT (bad team)
OG:
Nick Easton- Base salary 4.5 mil on Saints
Andrew Norwell- Base salary 9 mil on Jags
That covers a good chunk of the worthwhile players that could be traded. I'm sure there's more, but, ultimately how I look at is look at desperate teams in bad financial positions (like the Rams are every year and that's how we got Peters) or bad teams (like the Jags and that's how the Rams got Ramsey). Then look at players that the Ravens can actually afford. The intangible thing is whether or not the team would trade the players in question, but, as we have seen in many years of football no football player is untradeable.
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10-11-2020, 11:42 PM #19
Re: Realistic trade targets
Did you really just suggest that Kerrigan’s roughly $8m remaining salary makes him unreasonable, but the Saints eating $27m to trade the best WR in football IS realistic?
Pass the Dutchie to the left...
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10-11-2020, 11:47 PM #20
Re: Realistic trade targets
The Ravens have ~9 mil in cap pre Earl Thomas arbitration which would reduce it by 4 mil. I am looking at current year cap which would be 5 mil. The likely scenario is they don't have enough money to trade for anyone, but, Thomas or Chark could fit under the current cap easier than Kerrigan could.
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10-11-2020, 11:53 PM #21
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Greed, but realistic has two sides and the Saints are stuck with Thomas for at least two more years... after this one.
Scratch that, they could actually save a couple of dollars to cut him post June 1st next year, but that’s a dumb move. The following year they would actually save $7-8m by trading him. So 2 more years until it’s realistic, though next year has a theoretical out.
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10-11-2020, 11:54 PM #22Hall Of Fame Poster
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10-11-2020, 11:57 PM #23
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Teams don't trade their best players there won't be any trade out there that matters.
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10-11-2020, 11:59 PM #24
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Yeah, there is a few ways to accomplish that.
A. Agree on say a 5th rounder as comp... up it to a 4th if they pay $3m of his remaining salary.
B. Trade for him, squeak him under the cap for 5 minutes, extend him for a 3 year $26m contract with $6m guaranteed at signing, shaving that off the remainder of this years salary. $8m salary next year, $10m the following year, cap hits $2m higher each year, $4m to cut him next year, $2m the following year.
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