Week 2 Other Games

[NOLARavenFAN]

If they can protect him. Can't believe they didn't spend more on OL upgrade.

Cheap ....they had to put out $$$ for that first pick of the draft. Predictably they will add in players slowly and be almost competitive. We have seen this before. The Bengals have had good QBs....it's the owner that's the problem.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

[TheOrioleWay]

Cheap ....they had to put out $$$ for that first pick of the draft. Predictably they will add in players slowly and be almost competitive. We have seen this before. The Bengals have had good QBs....it's the owner that's the problem.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Yes, the Bengals will never get to the promised land as long as MB is the owner.

Living here for longer than I like to think about, I've developed friendships with folks close to the Brown family. My Brother in Law is tight with Mike and they have lunch a couple times a year.

This is from a die-hard Bengals fan and a good synopsis of what goes on in the front office:

I spoke with a friend of my brother's last night, who as part of his job had worked for both the Bengals and FC Cincinnati; the Bengals for the last ten years. He told me he just severed his working ties with the Bengals. When I asked what the organization is like, he said "The NFL is the biggest and most influential sports league in the US, and I voluntarily stopped working in it. That tells you how I feel about the team." He said in the ten years he worked for them, he never, ever heard anyone in management talk about the fans, and he never heard anyone in management talk about wanting to win a championship. Compare that with FC Cincinnati, where he said they talk about the fans and how they can keep their fans every time there is a meeting. I want a regime change!

[Culex]

Why are the turds getting hyped up again after winning by just 5 against a terrible team

[PTORaven]

A survey of early-drafted QBs from 1970 to Roethlisberger:

Year	Rnd	Pick	Player
1970	1	1	Terry Bradshaw	started game 1
1971	1	1	Jim Plunkett	started game 1
1971	1	2	Archie Manning	started game 1
1971	1	3	Dan Pastorini	started from game 5
1972	1	14	John Reaves	started from game 3
1973	1	2	Bert Jones	started game 1
1975	1	1	Steve Bartkowski	started game 1
1976	1	6	Richard Todd	started from game 8
1978	1	17	Doug Williams	started game 1
1979	1	7	Phil Simms	started from game 6
1979	1	23	Steve Fuller	started from game 3
1981	2	33	Neil Lomax	started game 2
1982	1	5	Jim McMahon	started last 7 games
1983	1	1	John Elway	started game 1
1983	1	14	Jim Kelly	started game 1 – for his USFL team
1983	1	24	Ken O'Brien	started last 5 games of his rookie season
1983	1	27	Dan Marino	started from game 6
1985	2	37	Randall Cunningham	started game 2
1986	1	3	Jim Everett	started last 5 games of rookie seaosn
1986	2	47	Jack Trudeau	started from game 3
1987	1	1	Vinny Testaverde	started 4 games late in rookie season
1987	1	6	Kelly Stouffer	started from game 5
1989	1	1	Troy Aikman	started game 1
1989	2	51	Billy Joe Tolliver	started last 5 games
1990	1	1	Jeff George	started game 1
1990	1	7	Andre Ware	only started game 9
1992	1	6	David Klingler	started final 4 games of rookie season
1993	1	1	Drew Bledsoe	started game 1
1993	1	2	Rick Mirer	started game 1
1994	1	3	Heath Shuler	started from game 5
1995	1	5	Kerry Collins	started from game 4
1996	2	42	Tony Banks	started from game 4
1997	2	42	Jake Plummer	started second half of rookie season
1998	1	1	Peyton Manning	started game 1
1998	1	2	Ryan Leaf	started game 1
1998	2	60	Charlie Batch	started game 2
1999	1	1	Tim Couch	started game 2
1999	1	2	Donovan McNabb	didn't start til game 7
1999	1	3	Akili Smith	got snaps every game from week 2; strated from game 7
1999	1	11	Daunte Culpepper	sat behind Jeff George & Randall Cunningham
1999	1	12	Cade McNown	didn't start til game 6, but got snaps every game
1999	2	50	Shaun King	started last 5 games
2001	1	1	Michael Vick	split time with Chris Chandler
2001	2	53	Quincy Carter	started game 1
2002	1	1	David Carr	started game 1
2002	1	3	Joey Harrington	started from game 3
2002	1	32	Patrick Ramsey	started 5 games as rookie
2003	1	1	Carson Palmer	sat for a year
2003	1	7	Byron Leftwich	started from game 4
2003	1	19	Kyle Boller	started game 1
2003	1	22	Rex Grossman	started last 3 games
2004	1	1	Eli Manning	started from game 10
2004	1	4	Philip Rivers	did not start as rookie (behind Brees)
2004	1	11	Ben Roethlisberger	started from game 3
2004	1	22	J.P. Losman	started 3 games late in rookie season

Early-drafted QBs have been starting pretty much right away for teams, for over 50 years.

ok, that's "a survey" as you said and not the whole list. looking at the WHOLE LIST of first-round QBs from 1978-2019 (16 game season era):

Before 2008:
22% started 3/4 of their first season
6% started their whole first season (Jim Kelly, Rick Mirer, Peyton Manning, David Carr)

From 2008 onward:
60% started 3/4 of their first season
26% started their whole first season (Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Sam Bradford, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Ryan Tannehill, Jameis Winston, Carson Wentz, Kyler Murray)

sorry Jim, there actually is a big difference between the way first-round QBs were handled pre-Flacco/Ryan. i'm not saying it didn't happen at all, but it was very rare to trot your 1st round QB out there to start week 1

[Culex]

I guess the Jets really are terrible

[Rosdaman]

I guess the Jets really are terrible

Mostert hit 23.5 MPH on that 80 yd TD run

[PGCountyRaven85]

Lol, a lot of Steeler fans I know have been telling me that Diontae Johnson is better than Hollywood and he will be the new AB...I have yet to see Diontae make a play in 2020. I have seen him make a lot of blunders.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[PGCountyRaven85]

Gordon gouging Pitt


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[alien bird]

Drew Lock . . . SMH

[Josepho]

So happy for Hurst, I'm pulling for him.

[ShadeRaven]

81g red! Td

[VermontRaven]

Anyone know injury to Lock? Saw Jake Driskell is at QB for Broncos (i am on redzone)