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09-14-2020, 10:57 AM #13Veteran Poster
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Re: No Nonsense Simple Law Enforcement Reform Plan
How about the legal system enforced the laws.
How about the media stops pushing a race war
How about letting police do their job
Let’s take the most recent issue. Shooting in Lancaster. The cop was calm. Slowly approached the house. A crazy man comes rushing out the door with a big knife. Chasing the cop. The cop started to back peddle, but probably quickly realized there was no way to outrun the charging man. The ONLY option in that case was to eliminate the threat with force. And it worked. The cop didn’t get stabbed to death.
And what happens? The media promotes another innocent black man killed by police. And the ignorant rioters rush the street to protest.
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Re: No Nonsense Simple Law Enforcement Reform Plan
This isn't relevant to what I was talking about at all. You're conflating two separate things.
I'm not talking about the media or district attorneys/judges....that's a totally different can of worms.
What I'm talking about are things directly pertaining to law enforcement operations, policies, etc.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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09-14-2020, 11:04 AM #15
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09-14-2020, 11:06 AM #16Veteran Poster
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targeting candidates with community roots. You could easily have cops looking the other way to avoid a friend getting in trouble
What makes you think ex military doesn’t go through the same process??
Bi annual psyc exams?? Are you kidding? For every cop? Or for every citizen?
Mandatory 4 hr hand to hand combat??? Are you encouraging more physical attacks and violence?
2 hr week firearm testing is excessive. And extremely expensive.
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09-14-2020, 11:10 AM #17Veteran Poster
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It is 100% relevant. How can you say it isn’t. You want police accountable woth training, body cams accountability. I gave you the most recent example of how the other things that I listed would make all of your suggestions irrelevant.
Again. Number 1. Stop committing crimes. 2. Of you commit a crime, you need to be held accountable. 3 start going after media for false stores that stir the pot. 4 prosecute rioters.
We have thousands of police interactions every year. And less than 1% are bad.
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Being on edge all day everyday leads to PTSD. It's not some extreme position to have Cops go through psych-exams, maybe you could find people who need help before it gets bad.
The hand to hand combat COULD be useful as a means of deescalation without having to use a weapon.
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Re: No Nonsense Simple Law Enforcement Reform Plan
I think you may have misunderstood me. The point of this is you don't want to take Jim Bob Johnson from Topeka Kansas and immediately drop him into center-city Baltimore. Not only are you setting that person up for failure, but you're putting the community in jeopardy as well from a policing perspective because he may not understand certain elements that could help deal with specific situations.
My sense is that it would be better for the community and for the police officers themselves if they are local and have cultural/communal similarities and shared history with the areas they're policing.
Because I know they aren't. I applied for State Trooper in PA, MD, and NJ years ago and they give more "applicant" points to ex-military thereby increasing their chances of being hired versus someone that has no military experience. This is largely because they are already trained in things like firearms, combat, use of force continuum, etc.
Originally Posted by Vlad the lad
I'm honestly a little shocked that you would even have a problem with that.
Cops are people too. They have the same people problems that everyone else does - including mental illness.
Mandatory 4 hr hand to hand combat??? Are you encouraging more physical attacks and violence?
Originally Posted by Vlad the ladDisclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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09-14-2020, 01:38 PM #22Veteran Poster
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No, I am just countering the claim that all cops are bad. Your list suggests that all cops are bad. But in reality, we are talking less than 1%. Try to find any other professional woth a perfect workforce.
You don’t see doctored being forced to practice opening up patients to look for watches and rings, because some doctor dropped his watch in a patient.
Again, don’t break the law, enforce current laws, punish bad apples. And 99% of the issues are gone.
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09-14-2020, 01:57 PM #23
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