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Re: The One Move I Disagree With by Decosta
I think they felt it was worth the gamble and when he was signed, they move on. He played well last year with his familiarity but it's not like he's irreplaceable. They LB by committee anyway
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08-07-2020, 08:58 AM #14
Re: The One Move I Disagree With by Decosta
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Re: The One Move I Disagree With by Decosta
I would have liked to see him re-signed as well, but the rest of the defense is so strong now that I don't see growing pains from Queen and Harrison being any kind of significant issue.
A much bigger issue than ILB IMO. I'm far from a member of the James Hurst fan club, but I don't think they needed to cut him (correct me if I'm wrong re: cap space needs) and they have not adequately replaced him after doing so.back on twitter
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08-07-2020, 09:33 AM #16
Re: The One Move I Disagree With by Decosta
Yeah, at this moment I'm far more worried about losing James Hurst than I am about Bynes. Yes, *that* James Hurst. We have nobody in that role. Of course, you'll note that I said "at this moment." I won't actually worry about holes in the roster until September.
I think it would have been a mistake to keep Bynes AND Fort. Had to be one or the other. Whether they picked the right one, I don't know. But we just spent a first and a third on ILBs. And we hardly use ILBs anymore with all of the dime we play. So we certainly didn't need to have four. A special teams guy (Alaka or Board) can fill the fourth ILB role just fine as far as I'm concerned."Chin up, chest out."
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08-07-2020, 09:45 AM #17
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08-07-2020, 09:54 AM #18Legendary RSR Poster
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08-07-2020, 10:15 AM #22Four-eyed Raven
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Re: The One Move I Disagree With by Decosta
YES. This. The major un-reported story of the 2019 Ravens is how we broke camp with a LB corps that couldn't play, and forced DeCosta & co to reconstitute it from scratch midseason.
They managed to reconstitute it, and that is freaking remarkable. Deserves some applause. But how the hell did they put themselves in a position where they needed to?!?
Exactly. What in the actual hell happened?!?
If I had to guess, I would say that they over-valued speed & athelticism, and undervalued plain ol' experience and knowledge of the position. I remember during training camp, Wink said "We have a fast, fast defense." Well yeah: but half of them played safety in college and didn't know where to line up.
Someone shared here a YouTube vid here after the Browns game, where a guy (who sounded like a HS coach) broke down all the big runs by Cleveland in the game. In all of them, our LBs were just screwing up basic alignment pre-snap. They would just leave gaps uncovered before the snap; it was obvious once he showed it. And the Brownies ran wild thru those gaps.
How the Ravens seem to have decided to address it, is to draft a couple fast guys who actually played ILB in college. The experiment of UDFAs and trying to conjure the next Urlachers out of converted safeties, seems to be over. They decided that since speed & athleticism and knowledge & savvy are valuable, they need to pay draft capital for it. Makes sense.
But there's a story there. And it hasn't been covered.
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08-07-2020, 10:32 AM #23Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: The One Move I Disagree With by Decosta
I don't think it's rocket science. Peanut had a strong year in 2018, and Kenny Young is a great athlete. They made a bet, gave 2 guys who'd never played together an opportunity to gel and then pulled the plug after about 4 weeks.
You can go back through many, many seasons under Harbaugh -- incl. playoff seasons -- where the 1st quarter season depth chart and rotations looked nothing like the team down the stretch.
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08-07-2020, 11:30 AM #24
Re: The One Move I Disagree With by Decosta
Agreed. They had both proven themselves -- very well in fact -- as role players the year before. Limited snaps, limited responsibilities. It was reasonable to hope that one or both would be able to make the jump. Neither was. The only way you find that out is to let them try.
To categorize it as a mistake? Personally, I'd rather we give our own young guys an opportunity to fail before we run out and sign vets.
Look at WR this year. Is it a mistake to believe Hollywood will make a jump to being a dominant WR, and that the draftees will be able to play at the NFL level? No. But it's certainly possible that they all end up sucking, and we have to go dumpster-diving in the FA WR bin again. (Good God, shoot me now if that happens.)
But it doesn't mean it's a mistake to let the young guys try it first."Chin up, chest out."
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