‘Compliance Would Be Disobedience’

**NCRAVEN** · 07-26-2020, 09:35 AM

‘Compliance Would Be Disobedience’: Prominent California Church Defies State Lockdown To Resume In-Person Assembly

https://www.dailywire.com/news/compl...erson-assembly

Going to interesting to see how this one turns out. Especially since their so public about refusing to comply.

**blueridgemtnman** · 07-26-2020, 09:43 AM

Good for them.

**Dirt1** · 07-26-2020, 11:20 AM

Supreme Court decides against Nevada church fighting to overturn attendance limit https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/polit...rch/index.html

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**Ortizer** · 07-26-2020, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

‘Compliance Would Be Disobedience’: Prominent California Church Defies State Lockdown To Resume In-Person Assembly

https://www.dailywire.com/news/compl...erson-assembly

Going to interesting to see how this one turns out. Especially since their so public about refusing to comply.

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
Romans 13:1*-‬2 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.13.1-2.NIV

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**owknows** · 07-26-2020, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

Supreme Court decides against Nevada church fighting to overturn attendance limit https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/polit...rch/index.html

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Gamblin... statue smashin... street paintin... marchin...

It's all good.

But don't you go worshippin...

**Ortizer** · 07-26-2020, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by owknows

Gamblin... statue smashin... street paintin... marchin...

It's all good.

But don't you go worshippin...

I did think Gorsuch characterized it well. I have been impressed with his reasoning on the stuff I've read.

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**NCRAVEN** · 07-26-2020, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Ortizer

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
Romans 13:1*-‬2 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.13.1-2.NIV

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I’m well familiarized with this verse. Context matters of course.

**NCRAVEN** · 07-26-2020, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

Supreme Court decides against Nevada church fighting to overturn attendance limit https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/polit...rch/index.html

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And?

**owknows** · 07-26-2020, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Ortizer

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
Romans 13:1*-‬2 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.13.1-2.NIV

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So of course when the authorities construct great ovens for the burning of jews... it is our duty then to burn jews.

Is that what you're telling me?

**NCRAVEN** · 07-26-2020, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by owknows

So of course when the authorities construct great ovens for the burning of jews... it is our duty then to burn jews.

Is that what you're telling me?

Of course not. That verse is too often taken as an absolute. But I think it’s more of obey a government so long as they’re not telling you to do something that would be against God.

https://www.desiringgod.org/intervie...l-disobedience

**owknows** · 07-26-2020, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Of course not. That verse is too often taken as an absolute. But I think it’s more of obey a government so long as they’re not telling you to do something that would be against God.

https://www.desiringgod.org/intervie...l-disobedience

Yes of course. Was pointing out the absurdity of the interpretation.

I would say it would be pretty unlikely that a just God would command that you violate his commandments.

And that interpretations of scripture outside these bounds need to be reconciled with reason.

**NCRAVEN** · 07-26-2020, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by owknows

Yes of course. Was pointing out the absurdity of the interpretation.

I would say it would be pretty unlikely that a just God would command that you violate his commandments.

And that interpretations of scripture outside these bounds need to be reconciled with reason.

My bad, didn’t mean to imply you really meant that. I picked up on what you were after there.