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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by owknows View Post
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wha...unity-platform

    "This is a bold, transformative platform for our party and for our country. And I am deeply grateful to Senator Sanders for working together to unite our party, and deliver real, lasting change for generations to come,” Biden said



    So it looks like Trump by a landslide then.
    But wait...it can't be all that bad...Trump says he Biden plagerized him. This stuff gets funnier by the minute.

    https://youtu.be/zEx6Pfu3Qc4

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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    But wait...it can't be all that bad...Trump says he Biden plagerized him. This stuff gets funnier by the minute.

    https://youtu.be/zEx6Pfu3Qc4

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    On returning manufacturing jobs?

    Yeah, I'd say that's probably true.

    The left figured out that their globalism shtick doesn't ply well on main street.





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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by ddr_jr View Post
    But wait...it can't be all that bad...Trump says he Biden plagerized him. This stuff gets funnier by the minute.

    https://youtu.be/zEx6Pfu3Qc4

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    Watch this and give honest commentary on it.

    https://twitter.com/kumark1/status/1281183475308081152





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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by bandc View Post
    I think Joe Biden just got my vote! Long live socialism! Healthcare for everyone!

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    I never took you for sarcasm.





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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by owknows View Post
    So you're a socialist then...

    Sort of a "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" kinda guy?
    Everyone is a socialist. Just depends to what degree.

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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by bandc View Post
    Everyone is a socialist. Just depends to what degree.

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    It is this fallacy that will be your undoing.





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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    My guess is in reality he’s trailing Trump and they feel embracing extremes is his best shot.





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    Thumbs down Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Bc's opinions =

    Free Healthcare for Illegals : LOL, is he f'n crazy?

    $15 Minimum Wage : Yes, I endorse this so people can have a decent salary and better take care of their families.

    Reparations : NO, but use the $ to educate people of color so they can become workers with skills who stand on their own two feet and contribute to society.

    Halt to all deportation : see "Free Healthcare for Illegals."


    When you give away $omething, it's got to cost someone. There is no free lunch. Biden is pandering to those who want $omething for nothing... Bc





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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post

    $15 Minimum Wage : Yes, I endorse this so people can have a decent salary and better take care of their families.
    So people who have put no effort into bettering their circumstances and have a job that students typically have to earn some summer spending cash... should make as much money as someone who has invested their time and money in a trade school, learned a skill, and worked it for years?

    Can't say I agree.

    Moreover, simple economics will dictate that businesses will pass these costs onto consumers, raising the prices of all goods and services, leaving those who now make $15 an hour with the same spending power they had before the government mandated increase.

    Happens every single time. You'd think we'd be wise to it.





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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by owknows View Post
    So people who have put no effort into bettering their circumstances and have a job that students typically have to earn some summer spending cash... should make as much money as someone who has invested their time and money in a trade school, learned a skill, and worked it for years?

    Can't say I agree.

    Moreover, simple economics will dictate that businesses will pass these costs onto consumers, raising the prices of all goods and services, leaving those who now make $15 an hour with the same spending power they had before the government mandated increase.

    Happens every single time. You'd think we'd be wise to it.
    Many minimum wage jobs will simply disappear.
    I recently took a job where I oversee 60-80 generally minimum wage or just barely more HS aged kids. If minimum wage went to $15 we would simply shut down and all those jobs would be lost. The market sensitivity is such that if we had to add that much cost to the operation we could not increase the cost of the product enough and still have consumers to pay for it.

    Self checkout will be the only way any business runs because no cashier is worth $15/hr in basically any circumstance. Inflation would be massive.
    Simply an awful idea all around.


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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Many minimum wage jobs will simply disappear.
    I recently took a job where I oversee 60-80 generally minimum wage or just barely more HS aged kids. If minimum wage went to $15 we would simply shut down and all those jobs would be lost. The market sensitivity is such that if we had to add that much cost to the operation we could not increase the cost of the product enough and still have consumers to pay for it.

    Self checkout will be the only way any business runs because no cashier is worth $15/hr in basically any circumstance. Inflation would be massive.
    Simply an awful idea all around.


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    Completely true.

    And this has been measurably demonstrated in every municipality in which the minimum wage has been raised to these levels.





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    Re: Biden endorses Unity Platform, incuding Free Healthcare for Illegals, $15 Minimum Wage, Reparations, Halt to all deportat

    Quote Originally Posted by owknows View Post
    So people who have put no effort into bettering their circumstances and have a job that students typically have to earn some summer spending cash... should make as much money as someone who has invested their time and money in a trade school, learned a skill, and worked it for years?

    Can't say I agree.

    Moreover, simple economics will dictate that businesses will pass these costs onto consumers, raising the prices of all goods and services, leaving those who now make $15 an hour with the same spending power they had before the government mandated increase.

    Happens every single time. You'd think we'd be wise to it.
    I'm not totally against what you're saying (I assume you agree with my other 3 points). You've got to give others something to satisfy them, otherwise there likely will be Hell to pay. Those in the lower socio-economic level need a boost. Those of us who can provide that should. Is it fair? Maybe not, but the alternative is so much more devastating. You seem to looking at a system where everyone is on an equal level, but due to so many factors (perhaps not of hard working people's fault) need to be addressed. This seems to me to be a small price to pay... Bc





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