kaepernick, Adams, or Brown?

**BearArms** · 06-22-2020, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

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Nice Bc!! LOL

**BearArms** · 06-22-2020, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by JimZipCode

I don't see any way in hell we sign Brown, under any circumstance. And I mean, if every WR tests positive for Covid and is out, and we have to play for the division in 3 days, I still think they leave AB alone.

So your saying there's a chance!!

Good to see you and Wicked so close in agreement:O. AB should wear that radioactive material sign like a sandwich board

**owknows** · 06-22-2020, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by guymf4

People have already started obvious reasons for why Kap and AB won't happen, so let's take a look at Adams for a second.

I don't see it happening because we have ET and Clark emerged as a starter and signed for 3 years at 16M. So we going to bench the young 5M a year safety AND add Adam's cap hit? The speculation is he'll be around 14M a year based on other top safeties, around what Thomas makes. We're paying ET 10M salary with a 5M dead money hit each year. Theoretically, if we cut ET, we'd just be eating his dead money for the next 3 years. I don't see that at being worth it, especially if we trade a draft pick. Lastly, there are way more desperate teams willing to through picks at it that would be getting a much bigger upgrade than Adams over ET.

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The trade would only make sense of course, if you divested yourself of Thomas.

**QtR Nevermore** · 06-22-2020, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by owknows

The trade would only make sense of course, if you divested yourself of Thomas.

Or Clark. They're both good but I'd trade either for Adams.

**jonboy79** · 06-22-2020, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by owknows

The trade would only make sense of course, if you divested yourself of Thomas.

Which isn’t really possible.
Or we start all 3 and play a ton of big nickel:

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**owknows** · 06-22-2020, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

Which isn’t really possible.
Or we start all 3 and play a ton of big nickel:

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When I suggested it originally, I also suggested that they slide Jimmy to FS

FS = J. Smith, D. Elliot

SS = J. Adams, C. Clark

Might actually make sense given that Thomas is on the downslope, and Adams is at or near peak. (and the Jets really need the trade)

I know you're probably giving away a little something at FS in the short term, for what I think is a better player at SS. But I think J. Smith and Elliot could hold the fort for a couple years, so you could address the position in the draft.

I honestly think the Thomas contract is one it would benefit the team to rid itself of.

**Bhcforlife** · 06-22-2020, 08:01 AM

I think it's Adams and then some distance away Kaepernick.

I just don't see them considering signing Brown until all of the off field stuff he's got going on is resolved. I don't write it off entirely if that stuff is resolved, but it's real hard for me to see them signing him with the abuse and sexual assault stuff just hanging out there. They've worked too hard on rehabbing their image and with Lamar have a real chance to grow their fan base in a way they've never been able to before to sign a guy that could undo all that work very quickly.

**PTORaven** · 06-22-2020, 08:46 AM

i don't see how they go for any of them. they aren't the team for AB no matter what AB thinks, they don't need a gigantic PR hit for a modestly better backup QB, and they already have the best secondary in the league

**JimZipCode** · 06-22-2020, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by owknows

The trade would only make sense of course, if you divested yourself of Thomas.

That's the part I don't understand. Can Adams play centerfield single-high safety like Earl can? I thought all the next-gen-stat type stuff showed that Earl was still very solid last year in that role. And that role is a tough one to fill. Why are so many here so eager to give him the bum's rush?

**HotInHere** · 06-22-2020, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by QtR Nevermore

Or Clark. They're both good but I'd trade either for Adams.

Clark has something that Adams won't have: affordability. That's going to be a HUGE asset in a few years.

**owknows** · 06-22-2020, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by JimZipCode

That's the part I don't understand. Can Adams play centerfield single-high safety like Earl can? I thought all the next-gen-stat type stuff showed that Earl was still very solid last year in that role. And that role is a tough one to fill. Why are so many here so eager to give him the bum's rush?

I don't know if I'd describe it as eager to give him the bum's rush.

Earl is 31

Adams is 24

Adams is at least as good at the SS position as Thomas is at the FS position, and I think it's fair to say that he will be a premium SS for longer than Earl will be a premium FS.

I personally think that the Ravens overpaid for Thomas, and think it would be wise to pass that deficit along to someone else if the opportunity exists.

And Adams adds things that might help shore up some other weaknesses that the Ravens didn't emphatically address in the draft. (namely the pass rush... )

Nothing personal. Just business.

**JimZipCode** · 06-22-2020, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by owknows

I don't know if I'd describe it as eager to give him the bum's rush.

Earl is 31

Adams is 24

Adams is at least as good at the SS position as Thomas is at the FS position, and I think it's fair to say that he will be a premium SS for longer than Earl will be a premium FS.

I personally think that the Ravens overpaid for Thomas, and think it would be wise to pass that deficit along to someone else if the opportunity exists.

And Adams adds things that might help shore up some other weaknesses that the Ravens didn't emphatically address in the draft. (namely the pass rush)

Nothing personal. Just business.

Yeah but: that leaves us with a hole at FS.