John Harbaugh's thoughts on the NFL virus guidelines.

**The Excellector** · 06-12-2020, 01:13 PM

They certainly can't wait until the day of the game to do the test, because the player would have likely been around the entire team, for the vast majority of the week.

**HbgPARavenfan** · 06-12-2020, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...nes-impossible

There are some pretty honest quotes in the piece.

Some truths. Some whining.

There's some things that are impossible, but can be modified. You can wear a mask in the facilities when not actually playing.

Some people think anything that inconviences them to any degree is some great assault.

There's a line of common sense that will need to be applied at some point

**HbgPARavenfan** · 06-12-2020, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Silver

This is nonsense. The NFL should be exempt from Covid-19 restrictions. What happens when one player comes down with it in November? Do they quarantine the entire team for two weeks? How does that play out forfeiting two games down the stretch?

This is why this entire thing is a fiasco. Either disregard the virus and get on with life as we know it or quit life.

So u won't care if you show up to the OR and I've been sick for days, but I'm just gonna live with it and operate on you, and shake ur families hand and say it went well.

There's a middle ground somewhere. All or nothing mentalities don't help.

We feel. I'll and we're screened and have to stay home until we're asymptomatic and fever free for 72 hours. We don't shut the whole hospital down. Something similar could be implemented

**mmi16** · 06-12-2020, 04:36 PM

Testing - Testing - Testing

Testing to prove personnel are not afflicted - with all proven not to be afflicted, they can do all the usual things necessary for a football team.

Testing for every practice and every game. Testing to be for both Active Covid-19 as well as antibodies for Covid-19. Those that test positive for active Covid-19 ti be quarantined away from the rest of the team until they have recovered and display antibodies for the disease.

**Bhcforlife** · 06-15-2020, 12:42 PM

Didn't see it posted but relevant as we get closer to players being back in the buildings:

https://www.nfl.com/news/multiple-co...e-for-covid-19

**HKusp** · 06-15-2020, 04:23 PM

So let me ask you this. When is the last time man eradicated a virus? There is no vaccine for Covid, and there isn't going to be one for the foreseeable future. There IS a vaccine for Influenza A and B and at it's MOST effective year on record it was 54% effective, last year it was 38% I believe. Some years it's below 20%. Covid has the same Ro number as Influenza at a 1.3, meaning the rate of infection is the same. They originally predicting it was going to be 3.8 which would have made it exponentially more contagious, but it turns out it's the same as the flu. So guess how the only way to get through this is? Yep, come in contact with it, build a natural immunity, or hide in your house and wait for a vaccine that may be effective, but probably won't be and it SHOULD take 5+ years for that vaccine to get to the market anyway. You want to get on with life, or hide for the next 4 or 5 years?

**seraph** · 06-15-2020, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by HKusp

So let me ask you this. When is the last time man eradicated a virus? There is no vaccine for Covid, and there isn't going to be one for the foreseeable future. There IS a vaccine for Influenza A and B and at it's MOST effective year on record it was 54% effective, last year it was 38% I believe. Some years it's below 20%. Covid has the same Ro number as Influenza at a 1.3, meaning the rate of infection is the same. They originally predicting it was going to be 3.8 which would have made it exponentially more contagious, but it turns out it's the same as the flu. So guess how the only way to get through this is? Yep, come in contact with it, build a natural immunity, or hide in your house and wait for a vaccine that may be effective, but probably won't be and it SHOULD take 5+ years for that vaccine to get to the market anyway. You want to get on with life, or hide for the next 4 or 5 years?

Yeah not like these guys have family members living with them who are at higher risk right? Also LOL at believing in the herd immunity meme.

**BustOfPallas** · 06-15-2020, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by mmi16

Those that test positive for active Covid-19 ti be quarantined away from the rest of the team until they have recovered and display antibodies for the disease.

If they have to do that the season is going to be a joke. Imagine half a champion ship team contracting the virus before the playoffs. It will be like "who cares".

**Ravenswintitle** · 06-15-2020, 05:43 PM

I don't see any way to social distance so either you rip the bandaid off or you use caution. Can't see a middle ground for 11 on 11 contact sport.

Even baseball:
MLB commissioner Rob Manfred tells @Espngreeny that he’s “not confident” there will be a 2020 baseball season. “Unfortunately," Manfred said, "I can’t tell you that I’m a 100% certain that’s gonna happen.”

**HKusp** · 06-15-2020, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by seraph

Yeah not like these guys have family members living with them who are at higher risk right? Also LOL at believing in the herd immunity meme.

LOL at hiding in your house hoping that the big bad virus doesn't get you. Let us know how it works out for you.

**mdduckman** · 06-15-2020, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by HKusp

LOL at hiding in your house hoping that the big bad virus doesn't get you. Let us know how it works out for you.

The “big bad virus” has already killed nearly 120,000 people in the US along, and some estimate it will be over 200,000 by September. But keep thinking it’s nothing. True it may very well not affect you in any way, but I wouldn’t knock anyone for doing what they feel is best for themselves and their families.

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