Jamal Adams

**WNCRavensFan** · 06-05-2020, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

You can’t honestly think longevity has extreme value, can you?

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Depends on the quality of the decline phase, but when talking about careers in total, yes. If you're in your mid-late 30s and still a very good player, that's special.

**jonboy79** · 06-05-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

Depends on the quality of the decline phase, but when talking about careers in total, yes. If you're in your mid-late 30s and still a very good player, that's special.

Good qualifier.
Favre’s longevity was special, how anyone can deny that is beyond me.

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**WNCRavensFan** · 06-05-2020, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

Good qualifier.
Favre’s longevity was special, how anyone can deny that is beyond me.

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I think there is a natural bias towards high peak, short career players because we never get to see their decline phase.

Would Barry Sanders have broken Emmitt Smith's rushing record if he kept playing? It's likely, but we really don't know.

Not that Sanders really qualifies as a short career (-cough- Gale Sayers -cough-) but I think you get the point.

**WNCRavensFan** · 06-05-2020, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by justifythegame

Favre essentially played in a different league. Defenses are much softer today and the rules are geared in favor of QBs. Stats alone arent really a fair comparison against QBs of the past.

That's why I prefer stats compared to league average, which does very well in baseball with things like OPS+ and RC+. PFR tries to do that with AV and weighted AV but I'm not ready to buy into that yet with some of the rudimentary criteria.

**Davesta** · 07-25-2020, 04:21 PM

(2) 1st rounders & (1) 3rd rounder for Jamal. Would y’all pro-Jamal camp accepted that trade? Lol

**ravensromp** · 07-25-2020, 04:25 PM

Are the Seahawks on drugs?

**The Excellector** · 07-25-2020, 04:28 PM

So, the Jets did something right, for once.

**Davesta** · 07-25-2020, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

So, the Jets did something right, for once.

It’s a new era in New York!
All hail Joe Douglas!
AFC East Ravens stand up!

**Ravenswintitle** · 07-25-2020, 04:35 PM

massive haul for the Jets, that's a QB level trade. Seahawks needed an answer for Kittle

**WrongBaldy** · 07-25-2020, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

massive haul for the Jets, that's a QB level trade. Seahawks needed an answer for Kittle

clowney )

**The Excellector** · 07-25-2020, 05:38 PM

On the flip side of this, I have to question Pete Carroll’s decision making, when it comes to these trades. He’s done a lot of good things and he’s still one of the best coaches in the league (Even if he blew a title). However, too often he seems to go willy nilly with these trades.

**BcRaven** · 07-25-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

So, the Jets did something right, for once.

Apparently :

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-to-seahawks/

" Adams and a 2022 fourth-round draft pick go to Seattle, while a 2021 first-round pick, a 2021 third-round pick, a 2022 first-round pick and safety Bradley McDougald go to New York."

... Bc