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05-15-2020, 10:22 AM #37Hall Of Fame Poster
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I get that overwhelming use of force can paradoxically result in less violence. That doesn't work when a homeowner happens to be armed and in a situation where he has no idea who just kicked his door in. If someone kicks my door in and I happen to be up and my pistol is handy I am maybe shooting that person.
I want to update this to add that the context is important. If you are going into the home of a hardened criminal then guns blazing makes more sense. I don't get that here. Seems like they just reflexively opened up when someone shot at them. Once that first shot is fired all bets are off. As law enforcement professionals I would think you would have to train for a scenario like this, exactly like this one, in order to prevent it in the future. This seems like a training exercise waiting to happen and I'm guessing it will become part of whatever training these guys get.
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05-15-2020, 10:23 AM #38Pro Bowl Poster
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There clearly needs to be some changes to the procedures on this. They were both asleep in bed, which the story says this incident happened "in the early morning hours." It should be reasonable to assume the occupants would be asleep. Police claim they identified themselves as police. The boyfriend and several other neighbors claim that didn't happen. Well, chances are everyone was asleep, if someone yells something at my door good chance it doesn't wake me up, and if it does, I'm not coherent enough to process what they said, if I could even understand it. The police should have expected this.
Then they bust open the door on sleeping occupants. Some have stated that people probably bust into homes to rob in bad neighborhoods all the time. I don't know if this was in fact a bad neighborhood or not. But if they truly suspected drug activity, they should probably also suspect that their may be a firearm or firearms in the home. Busting a door open in the "early morning hours" is probably going to get a response like this, not a smoothly controlled situation. The police should have expected this as well.
I'm not saying any of this in an attempt to put blame on the police. They had the warrant, they executed it in line with their procedures (I am assuming), they were shot at and one was hit, and the whole incident had a terrible outcome. But whenever you have a bad outcome, you need to look at the steps that led to it and correct.
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05-15-2020, 10:48 AM #39
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05-15-2020, 10:50 AM #40Hall Of Fame Poster
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05-15-2020, 12:56 PM #41
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05-15-2020, 01:12 PM #43Hall Of Fame Poster
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05-15-2020, 01:13 PM #44
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05-15-2020, 01:18 PM #45
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Re: Breonna Taylor
Wow. This is pretty disturbing. I only read this one article. But based on what I read it seems a investigation and reevaluation of the no knock warrant is in order. If the police did not announce themselves IMO the guy was justified to shoot. But seriously, couldn't anyone break into your house and yell "POLICE!!!" so you disarm yourself? The system seems flawed.
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05-15-2020, 01:23 PM #47Veteran Poster
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05-15-2020, 01:25 PM #48Hall Of Fame Poster
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